2016 US Presidential Election Thread IX - Page 53 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-10-2016, 11:48 PM   #781
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 30,499
Local Time: 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase View Post
Just so I know what I'm dealing with here... crazy old guy or orange racist mutant?

orange is NOT the new black
__________________

__________________
Irvine511 is online now  
Old 06-11-2016, 12:15 AM   #782
Acrobat
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Hill Valley, CA
Posts: 366
Local Time: 05:04 PM
2 million ballots have yet to be counted in California?
__________________

__________________
Phantom Dreamer is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 12:37 AM   #783
ONE
love, blood, life
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Leicester, UK
Posts: 12,386
Local Time: 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irvine511 View Post
orange is NOT the new black

Orange owns the new black
__________________
LuckyNumber7 is online now  
Old 06-11-2016, 01:24 AM   #784
Blue Crack Supplier
 
dazzledbylight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: in the sound dancing - w Bono & Edge :D
Posts: 33,002
Local Time: 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trojanchick99 View Post
I support Hillary in part because I remember what she suffered in the '90s as First Lady. The Right was incensed that she DARE try to influence policy. They tried to get her to fit the mold of the archetypal first lady, who was the ultimate housewife. That's not who she ever was. I loved that she was able to have her own career after Bill served his two terms.

For a woman, she's a bit brash and that ALWAYS draws criticism. Again, I respect her a ton for what she's had to put up with as a candidate.
Omg, it was so nasty back in the 90's for Hillary & Bill. I used to listen to right wing talk radio (to"yell" back at it) at that time (there was very little liberal radio talkers).

President Clinton was considered too "feminine" a president be cause he didn't over emphasize The Military, cared about more "women orientated" issues like education, etc How he displayed empathy.. There were callers genuinely talking about talking The Vote away from women because they helped get him elected !

And when Hillary responded to a question early on as First Lady that I can't quite remember but she answered, "what, do they expect me to stay home and back cookies!?"
Oh, the howling that went on over that!
__________________
dazzledbylight is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 01:51 AM   #785
Blue Crack Addict
 
Moonlit_Angel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo...
Posts: 19,272
Local Time: 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dazzledbylight View Post
President Clinton was considered too "feminine" a president be cause he didn't over emphasize The Military, cared about more "women orientated" issues like education, etc How he displayed empathy.. There were callers genuinely talking about talking The Vote away from women because they helped get him elected !
On the one hand, I'm sadly not surprised that that sort of stupidity is still out there, but on the other hand...yikes .

(BTW, missed the chance to say it before when you popped in, but hi !)
__________________
Moonlit_Angel is online now  
Old 06-11-2016, 01:58 AM   #786
Blue Crack Supplier
 
dazzledbylight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: in the sound dancing - w Bono & Edge :D
Posts: 33,002
Local Time: 09:04 PM
Well said, Moonlit ( your long post a few pages back)
__________________
dazzledbylight is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 02:07 AM   #787
Blue Crack Supplier
 
dazzledbylight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: in the sound dancing - w Bono & Edge :D
Posts: 33,002
Local Time: 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel View Post
On the one hand, I'm sadly not surprised that that sort of stupidity is still out there, but on the other hand...yikes .
Shocked but not surprised?

Kind of like the way I also feel when some serious police abuse against black people happens, still.
__________________
dazzledbylight is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 02:18 AM   #788
Blue Crack Supplier
 
dazzledbylight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: in the sound dancing - w Bono & Edge :D
Posts: 33,002
Local Time: 09:04 PM
I havendecided whether I hink Hillary is really "shadey" or not. I do know some of her positions may be too centrist for me, but I'm intrigued in what one poster (?? womanfish) said about her voting the same as Bernie about 93% of the time. There are other things that she's done that I really like!

I hope to seriously volunteer iin Oct for the General Election for her lovecElizabeth Warren a very good choice!
Cory Booker might be good, too. Though he may be a person who seeks too much comprise.

I believe you have to pick your fights. Comprise on some things, but not on others. It can became a tricky path to walk.
__________________
dazzledbylight is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 09:11 AM   #789
Blue Crack Addict
 
DaveC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: illegitimi non carborundum
Posts: 17,415
Local Time: 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel View Post
Exactly. I have no problem with the fact people support Bernie, I totally get why he holds appeal for people, and I like the guy as well. I agree with his stances, and I appreciate the idealism and hope his campaign has inspired in people. I like seeing people genuinely enthused and passionate like this, and I hope the enthusiasm and passion he's inspired carries over to getting some really good policy and legislation passed, be it on a local, state, or federal level.

But he didn't win the nomination. Hilary did. And I'm going to support her. That doesn't mean I automatically agree with every single thing she's said or done, that doesn't mean I think she's the best Democratic candidate we've ever had, that doesn't mean I can't understand why some people are wary of her.

But I'm sure as hell NOT voting for Trump, not voting at all is not an option to me, and I don't want to write in a third-party candidate. And I believe she's got the experience and knowledge necessary to do the job, and won't drive our country into the ground. I don't care if she's "unlikable", I don't care if she's a "bitch", I don't care if she's had her awkward public moments, etc., etc. I just want her to do her job and try and fight on behalf of the issues I care about, and so long as she can do that, we're good.
__________________
DaveC is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 10:07 AM   #790
War Child
 
Caleb8844's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 662
Local Time: 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVS View Post
So are Powell and Rice dishonest and untrustworthy?



Doesn't have much to do with being honest does it?

It's important not to conflate "personal email account" with "private email server." There're meaningful differences. Hillary isn't the first to use the former, but she is absolutely the first to use the latter.


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
__________________
Caleb8844 is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 10:19 AM   #791
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 40,697
Local Time: 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caleb8844 View Post
It's important not to conflate "personal email account" with "private email server." There're meaningful differences. Hillary isn't the first to use the former, but she is absolutely the first to use the latter.


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

Sure, but from a security aspect, which is apparently what this is about(which is actually bs), what's the difference?


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
__________________
BVS is online now  
Old 06-11-2016, 12:12 PM   #792
War Child
 
Caleb8844's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 662
Local Time: 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BVS View Post
Sure, but from a security aspect, which is apparently what this is about(which is actually bs), what's the difference?


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

I agree with you. The security angle is not the best angle. Even though I would assume that corporations who make their livelihood off of hosting email servers are likely somewhat more secure than Hillary's.

I think the real concern is the motivation for having a private email server. Seems likely that the ability to permanently delete emails is one possible motivation.


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
__________________
Caleb8844 is offline  
Old 06-11-2016, 01:11 PM   #793
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Stateless
Posts: 56,464
Local Time: 09:04 PM
How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned Millions http://nyti.ms/21efPRo
__________________
Headache in a Suitcase is online now  
Old 06-11-2016, 02:42 PM   #794
Refugee
 
Bluer White's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Maine
Posts: 1,887
Local Time: 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caleb8844 View Post
I think the real concern is the motivation for having a private email server. Seems likely that the ability to permanently delete emails is one possible motivation.


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
Imagine Vice President Cheney used a computer on a daily basis and operated a private server in Wyoming from 2000-2008, and conducted all his government business on it.

And then serious questions about his email practices come up. Tens of thousands of missing emails, hacking rumors, classification issues.

You can see where I'm going here, what the reaction might be
__________________
Bluer White is online now  
Old 06-11-2016, 03:06 PM   #795
War Child
 
Caleb8844's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 662
Local Time: 08:04 PM
2016 US Presidential Election Thread IX

Also, if this is the kind of information contained in the emails she *didn't* delete, it's fun to imagine what might be in those that she did:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/10/politi...ajiv-fernando/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CNN;
A major political donor to the Clintons and other top Democrats was selected by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to serve on a key State Department intelligence board in 2011, despite having no clear background in the area, according to emails released this week.
...
Rajiv Fernando has donated $9,400 to Clinton's two White House bids -- first her 2008 run and again this year -- and has been a generous donor to Democrats running for the House and Senate and to President Barack Obama.

Fernando, a Chicago securities trader, has also been a prolific donor to the Clinton Foundation, giving at least $1 million to the organization, according to its website.
__________________

__________________
Caleb8844 is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com