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Old 05-24-2016, 08:13 AM   #181
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If there are so many independents just jonesing to Feel The Bern, how has Hillary won more open primaries?

Logic would tell you that if there are so many independent BernieBros just comping at the bit to cast their vote that he'd dominate any open primary.

I guess I just don't understand math.


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Old 05-24-2016, 09:54 AM   #182
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Trump is talking about Vince Foster and murder.

That sounds like the shakeup of the system the Trumpsters say they want!
It's really is the '90s again. Time to get out my baby doll dress and doc martens.

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Old 05-24-2016, 10:02 AM   #183
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I was in the US this past weekend, we went out to join my husband who was in Boston at the time. He is an economist who spends much of his time in the US and says that the most surprising thing to him is that even educated people who are in finance and with whom he interacts daily seem to be very negative about the US economy and outlook. And he is going around telling them what a great situation the US is in at the moment, in terms of economic growth and outlook and they look at him like he's grown a second head. But it's kind of indicative of how when a certain meme is repeated so many times people start to buy into it. The whole "Make America Great Again" slogan is pure genius, because it is simple (and simple-minded), effective, and has perpetuated this lie that things are dire.
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I thought Make America Great Again was less about the economy and more about just masturbating over American pride.
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That's what I masturbate to 9 out of 10 times.
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Old 05-24-2016, 11:19 AM   #186
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It's really is the '90s again. Time to get out my baby doll dress and doc martens.

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Then we better camp out overnight in the mall with the Saved by the Bell crew to get Zoo TV tickets. Which is awesome.


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I thought Make America Great Again was less about the economy and more about just masturbating over American pride.

it's also subtly racist. the minorities are in charge now. we want to go back to whiter times.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:34 PM   #188
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I thought Make America Great Again was less about the economy and more about just masturbating over American pride.
It kind of all goes back to the economy.

If you're lower middle class and white and live in some midwestern dumpy town with poisoned water and haven't gotten a raise and have a crappy job, your life sucks compared to that of your parents. Then Trump tells you that the jobs are being taken by Mexican rapists and Chinese communist children who make things in factories for a lot cheaper. Companies that have moved abroad have profited greatly but you and your country haven't, not really, so that America is being "shown up" by more intelligent Asians who devalue their money in order to defeat you in the free trade markets which have been foisted upon you by unscrupulous Washington politicians who get kickbacks from said Asians. So because America is not the economic force it once was, that allows manly men like Putin to wag their dick around while wrestling bears naked on the Ukrainian border. Not to mention those corrupt raghead Arabs controlling the global price of oil, they're in cahoots with the Liberals at home who want to protect moss and moose instead of drilling, baby, drilling so poor America can't rely on liquid gold under Sarah Palin's house.

Hence the need to make America great again.

Now this may sound funny but I think we laugh at millions of people who think along these lines at our own peril.
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Clearly this discussion belongs here:

Best/Worst background U2 tracks during "sexy time"?

That's not a complaint, it's a request that it be added to that thread as well.
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Trump is talking about Vince Foster and murder.

That sounds like the shakeup of the system the Trumpsters say they want!
Oh geez , that, too again? Beat the dead horse, Trump, will ya.
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If there are so many independents just jonesing to Feel The Bern, how has Hillary won more open primaries?

Logic would tell you that if there are so many independent BernieBros just comping at the bit to cast their vote that he'd dominate any open primary.

I guess I just don't understand math.

You really don't because like that other poster you're making the assumption that a ton of independents voting for Bernie in a given state means he would win handily when the vast majority of voters in the Democratic primaries are registered Democrats. Bernie running can lead to, say, 20% of voters in an open primary being independents because they're voting for him and then still lose the state by a considerable margin as Clinton tended to school him with Democrats.

Think of it as an anti-gay party suddenly having a pro-gay politician, leading to a ton of gays voting in the primary that weren't part of the process beforehand. You wouldn't suddenly expect that politician to win just because he's bringing in so many new people to the fold as most of the primary voters are still going to be lifelong members of that party.

Sanders's non-affiliated voters is certainly a sizable group, but it's nowhere close to being enough to tip the scales. Three million voters (a fair estimate) isn't going to be enough to close the gap when you're losing by like eight million among Democrats alone. But it is enough to make a huge difference in the general election landscape (millions of independents voting for Sanders is huge considering Obama won the popular vote by like five million votes last time), hence why the Democratic party just made huge concessions today in its platform to Bernie Sanders, the first time ever for a losing candidate. They would not have done that if most of his support were coming from Democrats that they could count on in November regardless.
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But there are millions of them. MILLIONS.
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