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Old 09-21-2015, 08:49 PM   #61
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:06 PM   #62
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Rubio wins. He beats out Bush with Cruz doing what he can to gain attention. He stays in longer than Bush, too. The Santorum model.

Rubio presents himself as GOP Obama. Fresh-ish face, multi-culti-ish background. He is able to speak crazy and sane in a single sentence.

Rubio selects either Fiorina or Kasich as running mate. One is the Palin pick, the other the Biden pick.

Hillary looks as if she's scolding her talented but irresponsible son in the debates -- think Alex P. Keaton.

Trump attempts a third party run. Cruz wants attention so he vaguely threatens to do the same until he doesn't.

Hillary wins by about the same numbers Obama did in 2008. She even wins Florida. Rubio runs for governor and wins. Jeb gains back all the weight.

No clue on Hill's VP pick.
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Rubio wins. He beats out Bush with Cruz doing what he can to gain attention. He stays in longer than Bush, too. The Santorum model.

Rubio presents himself as GOP Obama. Fresh-ish face, multi-culti-ish background. He is able to speak crazy and sane in a single sentence.

Rubio selects either Fiorina or Kasich as running mate. One is the Palin pick, the other the Biden pick.

Hillary looks as if she's scolding her talented but irresponsible son in the debates -- think Alex P. Keaton.

Trump attempts a third party run. Cruz wants attention so he vaguely threatens to do the same until he doesn't.

Hillary wins by about the same numbers Obama did in 2008. She even wins Florida. Rubio runs for governor and wins. Jeb gains back all the weight.

No clue on Hill's VP pick.

Rubio seems viable, but no more viable than Bush.

I don't think that Trump will run as a third party candidate, and I'm not even sure why. Maybe I just think that enough people in high places will threaten/pressure him to get him to honor his GOP support pledge (which I assume isn't actually legally binding).

If things go normally, then it'll probably be Hillary vs. Rubio or Bush, and my instinct is that Hillary will win by a small margin. At this point, I'm not totally ruling out Bernie and/or one of the many GOP crazies being in the general election, but I still wouldn't invest in Bernie or Trump/Carson/Fiorina futures. Carson especially is fried after his comment about Muslims, Fiorina will probably say something equally stupid soon enough, and Trump will presumably eventually fade. Of the three, Fiorina is by far the most likely at this point.

And, speaking emotionally, I would desperately like a viable Democratic alternative to Hillary, but I'm not 100% sure why from a more logical standpoint. I'm not impressed by the email scandal or by her general aloof persona, but I honestly don't think that she'd be a bad president. I respect her work as SecState as well, and I partially can't blame her for a hardened persona, after how horribly the GOP has treated her for the past few years. But it's still difficult to watch. I'm left rooting for her regardless at the moment, because I really wouldn't want to vote for Bernie in the general election, and I couldn't vote for any of these Republicans.


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I partially can't blame her for a hardened persona, after how horribly the GOP has treated her for the past few years.
It's been more than a few years since 1992.
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And yet Carly Fiorina makes Hillary seem warm and fuzzy.
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Hillary is a train wreck. She is a shell of what she was in 2008. She is laying low, trying to rebrand herself. Hiring consultants who tell her she has to be funnier. She's not hitting the trail hard. Her crowds pale in comparison to Bernie. The dark cloud of the server hangs over her. The public perception of her has gone downhill in polling especially with trustworthiness and honesty.

I think if you are for her you have to be somewhat disappointed that she's not out there battling and bashing republicans over the head.


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Hillary is a train wreck. She is a shell of what she was in 2008. She is laying low, trying to rebrand herself. Hiring consultants who tell her she has to be funnier. She's not hitting the trail hard. Her crowds pale in comparison to Bernie. The dark cloud of the server hangs over her. The public perception of her has gone downhill in polling especially with trustworthiness and honesty.

I think if you are for her you have to be somewhat disappointed that she's not out there battling and bashing republicans over the head.


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maybe. we'll see.
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Hillary is a train wreck. She is a shell of what she was in 2008. She is laying low, trying to rebrand herself. Hiring consultants who tell her she has to be funnier. She's not hitting the trail hard. Her crowds pale in comparison to Bernie. The dark cloud of the server hangs over her. The public perception of her has gone downhill in polling especially with trustworthiness and honesty.

I think if you are for her you have to be somewhat disappointed that she's not out there battling and bashing republicans over the head.


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while i have issues with HRC as a candidate, reports of her demise are greatly exaggerated.

she also has by far the easiest path to 270 of any candidate of either party. by far.
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Hillary is a train wreck. She is a shell of what she was in 2008. She is laying low, trying to rebrand herself. Hiring consultants who tell her she has to be funnier. She's not hitting the trail hard. Her crowds pale in comparison to Bernie. The dark cloud of the server hangs over her. The public perception of her has gone downhill in polling especially with trustworthiness and honesty.

I think if you are for her you have to be somewhat disappointed that she's not out there battling and bashing republicans over the head.


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While some of this may be true, the upside is she isn't out there shutting down the govt., trying to defeat unions, preaching against gay marriage, and her supporters don't shout "Obama is a Muslim" at her campaign stops.

Despite all of her baggage, she can totally win, because conservatives cannot change their stripes. The moderates will continue to be drowned out by the insane clown posse of the party.

On the other hand, i could still see TRUMP! getting the nomination and getting into the White House because of his celebrity and the shit he says. But the downside for him is, well, the shit he says. People may begin to tire of him by then, if they haven't already. His "unfavorability" ratings are probably as high as his favorability ratings.

Still he has been a fun ride thus far. He is coming to our state fairl this weekend, i would be tempted to get liquored up and go see him, would surely be a hoot. But the truth is the state fair is basically wal*mart minus the air conditioning. So no thanks.
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This is so much better than the Trump gifs. Oh man.

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Hillary is a train wreck. She is a shell of what she was in 2008. She is laying low, trying to rebrand herself. Hiring consultants who tell her she has to be funnier. She's not hitting the trail hard. Her crowds pale in comparison to Bernie. The dark cloud of the server hangs over her. The public perception of her has gone downhill in polling especially with trustworthiness and honesty.

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The first ballots will not be cast - as of today - for 131 days.

HRC's polling recently went up a bit. She has hit her nadir and short of a criminal indictment, it's all uphill. All she has to do is something she's done many times. Weather the storm. Whitewater, Vince Foster, at this point I can't even remember all the bullshit from the 90's. Later - Benghazi. Emails. This is not her first rodeo. And unlike 2008, the media is not going to be cheerleading for the great storyline of Bernie or Rubio.

Personally, I'd rather support Biden than HRC but I don't think that is in the cards. Also let's not forget...the Republicans can't win the Presidency. They've won the popular vote once since 1988 and that was in a year where the Bushies had everyone scared to death of the darkies from 'over there' and the gays coming to forcibly marry your sons in Ohio. Even still, Kerry had the most votes ever for a losing candidate in 2004. Demographics. Electoral college. Social issues. All HRC really has to do is beat an admitted socialist and get the Dem nomination. And short of a criminal indictment, she will.
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The President doesn't seem to be a particular fan of Mrs. Clinton's presidency, but he won't have a criminal indictment of his own Secretary of State.
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The President doesn't seem to be a particular fan of Mrs. Clinton's presidency,

Has he endorsed someone else?


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