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Old 11-12-2015, 03:23 AM   #556
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Ted Cruz looked like he was wearing a Ted Cruz Halloween mask


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Also can we talk about Ben Carson's "biblical" tax plan. It would result in a deficit of around 1.1 trillion dollars...he also doesn't realize that you can't just tax GDP...


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I think we have found the problem with Ben Carson...

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2016 US Presidential Election Pt. III

Donald Trump went full emo tonight. Wow.

"How stupid are the people of Iowa?" Trump said. "How stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap?"


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Perhaps this is performance art of the highest order.

Though, given his startling call for a renewal of "Operation Wetback," I'm beginning to wonder if he isnt a Clinton plant trying to disqualify the entire party for Latino voters.
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Donald Trump went full emo tonight. Wow.

"How stupid are the people of Iowa?" Trump said. "How stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap?"


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...1221&tid=ss_tw

That's some freaking irony right there.


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Perhaps this is performance art of the highest order.

Though, given his startling call for a renewal of "Operation Wetback," I'm beginning to wonder if he isnt a Clinton plant trying to disqualify the entire party for Latino voters.
...did he actually use those words?
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...did he actually use those words?
It was a real thing: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback
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2016 US Presidential Election Pt. III

It's a real thing, but it was chosen very deliberately as a talking point for its use of 'wetback'. Like Oregoropa says, it's the red meat of this election.


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Perhaps this is performance art of the highest order.

Though, given his startling call for a renewal of "Operation Wetback," I'm beginning to wonder if he isnt a Clinton plant trying to disqualify the entire party for Latino voters.
I called him a Clinton plant from the start but was always half joking. No longer.

Funny thing is Trump's "how stupid are the people of Iowa/this country?" has been a thought many of us have shared for a number of years now.
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Say Trump is a plant...

If money is paid, people go to prison, right?
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Perhaps this is performance art of the highest order.

Though, given his startling call for a renewal of "Operation Wetback," I'm beginning to wonder if he isnt a Clinton plant trying to disqualify the entire party for Latino voters.

Right now Trump is out-performing Romney with Latinos. There are plenty of Latinos who have been here for generations who don't like the idea of undocumented workers taking jobs and under-cutting their wages.

Way back on page one of this thread I stated that the GOP race was going to hinge on immigration. This was before Trump went 'full (what RDJ said in Tropic Thunder)' on the issue. At the time I said Cruz would feed the red meat but now Donald is throwing out Kobe beef. Now Cruz is beating Rubio over the head.

I do think Trumps comments on Carson are not a good play.

Thanks for the trademark on 'Red Meat' BVS.


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2016 US Presidential Election Pt. III

I think Trump attacking Carson is a very wise and calculated move.

He's in danger of having peaked. Everyone who is in favor of Trump likes his outspoken nature. They don't want to see him sit down.

Trump has effectively suppressed Jeb Bush. He's defending his position atop the charts by giving his supporters what they want.. blood. Ben Carson is really exposed right now. It's opportunistic to attack and gut him to destabilize his run. Of course, it could backfire and have people side with Carson, but I think you'd meet a paradox at that point. Trump's campaign has been founded upon being vile and gutting weak opponents. By not being risky with his words, he defies himself.
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Right now Trump is out-performing Romney with Latinos. There are plenty of Latinos who have been here for generations who don't like the idea of undocumented workers taking jobs and under-cutting their wages.


could you source this? also, it's early. when sharper contrasts are done in the general election, i have a tough time seeing any of these candidates, other than Bush, honestly, doing better than Romney with Latinos.

it doesn't matter for many Latinos whether they've been here for 200 years or not -- rounding up people and deporting them is something that is going to resonate powerfully and negatively with Latinos from all walks of life.
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