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Old 11-06-2015, 02:28 AM   #421
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Who the hell is Gilmore?
Former Governor of Virginia quite a while back who has been running a campaign where he's like kinda maybe sorta running for President. Doesn't help that plenty of pollsters didn't even bother to include him before the debates happened or that he's basically always polled around 0% when rounding down.

I have no idea why he's still running at this point or how he intends to make the debates without any actual money or press coverage to boost him into them.

It's crazy that there's still 17 candidates at this stage, but Republicans aren't known for coming to grips with reality.

And there's at least 18 candidacies when you count the ghost one of Mitt Romney, waiting to spring into action if the Trump juggernaut continues to breathe hot air from precinct to precinct.
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:37 AM   #422
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My point is that there are African American evangelicals who vote Republican that live in Philadelphia.
Yes, but I'm still not sure how you go from that to the assumption that voter fraud is happening.

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Concerning Ben Carson's comments on the Great Pyramid of Giza.

It would be good to check on the different theories on why it was built before jumping on the latest "Carson the Idiot" bandwagon.
My reaction to those comments had to do with the fact that I was confused as to what he was getting at with the "disappear over time" thing.

Also, while it is true that this is one of the less weird things he's said, fact remains, it's still weird, and he's still an idiot no matter what. His comments on gun control alone prove that.

As for Lessig, everyone else already covered him, but honestly, I hadn't even heard his name until he dropped out, so that explains my lack of reaction to the guy.
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2. no other likely contender seems likely to talk about his major issue (which, from overseas, and from what I understand, I'd heartily support, along with compulsory voting, elections on Saturdays, and a complete end to voting-day ID challenging bullshit)
Actually, from my understanding, he got every democratic candidate to start talking about his major issue, so in that regard, his campaign was a success.
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Bravo, then. I'm too far away to get any real sense of how major an impact that was. It does tie in to other issues like the seemingly immovable mountain of gun control, absolutely. I predict precisely zero change on any of these matters.
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I can't believe I'd ever say this, but if presented with the choice between Ben Carson and Donald Trump, I'd vote for Donald Trump every damn time.

This is what the Republican party has come to... Where Donald Trump is the candidate who actually makes more sense than the front runner. Baffling.

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I would say Trump over Carson is a pretty easy choice. You know Trump is all pandering talk, and only a quarter as batshit crazy as he makes himself seem.
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It begins:

Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship - POLITICO
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The interesting thing is that this will do little to diffuse his current popularity. I mean, in the end it makes him unelectable because he's not exactly attracting moderates or swing voters with this nonsense, but his base doesn't seem to care whether he speaks the actual truth, just whether he keeps speaking "truth to power."

Say that the Holocaust could have been prevented if the Jews had more guns? Show an insane amount of disrespect to the victims of gun violence and tell them it's their fault because they didn't rush the shooter? Say that no amount of innocent deaths are worse than losing gun rights? Hey man, he's just standing up for individual responsibility and gun rights!

Get caught in a blatant lie about your involvement with a shady pharmaceutical company? No problem. Call it liberal media propaganda and deny it (but then admit it in the following sentences) and your base will eat it up.

Say that the Pyramids were miraculously built by God and Joseph to store grain (ignoring the fact that they're not hollow, took way longer than 7 years to build, and well... ignoring reality), and you're just a good God-fearing, Bible believing Christian!

Carson isn't running a reality based campaign, and his supporters don't care. They may even prefer it that way.
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Ben Carson is a living example of how campaign advisors utilize human perception.

He wouldn't be saying these things if the numbers didn't support it.
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They may even prefer it that way.

This is the part I find most disturbing.

I recently saw a Facebook post of Ted Nugent's it started off with "Even if this isn't true, we know..." Blah, blah, blah they plan on taking our guns. Not one thing in the post was true but not one poster even cared. I scanned through countless comments and not one person challenged the lies, they all just bought it. Most comments were of the birther 'he's a Muslim' variety and they ranged from the "he's a traitor" to the outright non-hyperbolic racist. It made my stomach turn, but it's true, many prefer not having the truth.


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This will chip away at Carsons numbers. He's been squeaky clean with his base up to this point. But now he's lied and what's worse is he lied about military service. Veterans hold their service in high regard and will cause them to rethink their support.


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This will chip away at Carsons numbers. He's been squeaky clean with his base up to this point. But now he's lied and what's worse is he lied about military service. Veterans hold their service in high regard and will cause them to rethink their support.


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He also believes The Flintstones was a documentary... but yea, lying about military service is much worse.
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He also claims to have applied to Marshall College to study Archaeology under the renowned Dr. Jones but his essay on the Pyramids resulted in his rejection.


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This will chip away at Carsons numbers. He's been squeaky clean with his base up to this point. But now he's lied and what's worse is he lied about military service. Veterans hold their service in high regard and will cause them to rethink their support.


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This will allow Herman Cain to come in and take the nomination!
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