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Old 08-20-2015, 06:05 PM   #706
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You said this



The title to the article is this



If you can't see the WTF here then i probably can't explain it to you

To say there's no connection there is silly, the suspect cited an influence. It does not mean Trump is responsible for the violence, but it shows a connection between the rhetoric and the danger it attracts.


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Being an island doesn't seem to help England keep out undocumented immigrants, so why does anyone think a wall will help the US?
Is that situation going well in England?

Sincerely asking...
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a lot of the arguments in here are people so desperate to think they furthering their position they can't think rationally

if you had somebody illegally building a 30 foot wall without the proper building permits, that perhaps could be laid at Trumps (hair piece) feet.
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Is that situation going well in England?

Sincerely asking...
in a word, YES
compared to the quantity of the problem in the U S. with our porous boarder




this backs up what I just said

No End in Sight for Migrants’ Desperate Chunnel Blitz - The Daily Beast
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To say there's no connection there is silly, the suspect cited an influence. It does not mean Trump is responsible for the violence, but it shows a connection between the rhetoric and the danger it attracts.


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give me a break

no Trump in the picture, these assholes are still going to beat up homeless people, you know the type.
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and for Deez Nuts enthusiasts
is not that poll just in one state, N C?

also, looking at the polls, his highest support came from younger people and going up the age charts his support dropped with the oldest giving him the least

so we know where the dumbing down of the electorate is coming from
Trump supporters?
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Did you miss the part where the suspect allegedly said to the police, "Trump is right we need to..."?
I wouldn't call this random or a stretch to connect Trump's influence.

The suspect has issues and hate crimes in his past but he's naming the person that incited him.


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I think anyone who honestly believes Trump should be president should be sent for a psychiatric evaluation.

This thing is on Trump as much as the killing of John Lennon is on JD Salinger.
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no Trump in the picture, these assholes are still going to beat up homeless people, you know the type.

He's been involved in two violent crimes, both had stressors. Him being homeless didn't seem to be the issue. Why is Trump fresh on his mind at the arrest? Just random? Or is the stressor having a future presidential hopeful spewing words that validate your own hatred?


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To say there's no connection there is silly, the suspect cited an influence. It does not mean Trump is responsible for the violence, but it shows a connection between the rhetoric and the danger it attracts.


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So if i were to go and beat up a homeless person, and cite Obama as a reference, as my inspiration for doing so, does that mean there is a connection to Obama? Did Obama incite the violence?

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if you had somebody illegally building a 30 foot wall without the proper building permits, that perhaps could be laid at Trumps (hair piece) feet.
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give me a break

no Trump in the picture, these assholes are still going to beat up homeless people, you know the type.
well said
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I think anyone who honestly believes Trump should be president should be sent for a psychiatric evaluation.

This thing is on Trump as much as the killing of John Lennon is on JD Salinger.

Once again, I'm not saying it's "on Trump", but this analogy isn't quite the same. Salinger wasn't saying anything to directly validate a certain hatred towards a certain person.


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So if i were to go and beat up a homeless person, and cite Obama as a reference, as my inspiration for doing so, does that mean there is a connection to Obama? Did Obama incite the violence?











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What did Obama say to validate your violent hatred?


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Once again, I'm not saying it's "on Trump", but this analogy isn't quite the same. Salinger wasn't saying anything to directly validate a certain hatred towards a certain person.


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See... I agree with you, but still think you're wrong.

Clearly politicians and media figures have the ability to shape a narrative a certain way that is not necessarily based in reality.

And I don't doubt that these guys were influenced by Trump.

But crazy is crazy.

To do what was done, they'd have to be crazy. If Trump didn't influence them, something else would have.

I can blame Trump for his own crazy. I can't blame him for others'.
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First off, i don't have a violent hatred, it's a hypothetical.

ONCE AGAIN, you are jumping to conclusions.

But thanks for proving my point.
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See... I agree with you, but still think you're wrong.

Clearly politicians and media figures have the ability to shape a narrative a certain way that is not necessarily based in reality.

And I don't doubt that these guys were influenced by Trump.

But crazy is crazy.

To do what was done, they'd have to be crazy. If Trump didn't influence them, something else would have.

I think some are focusing too much on Trump. Ok, remove him from the equation completely and let's just focus on the rhetoric.

My point is that the rhetoric feeds and validates this kind of "crazy".


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I feel BVS is being out-BVS'd here.
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