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Old 11-07-2012, 12:33 AM   #676
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Bachmann's lead over Graves is now down to under 400 votes! 55% in I think.
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I think MA legalized medical marijuana as well?
That, too.

Didn't even know that was on the ballot there.






Still dunno what the deal is. All of the major news places have the balls to announce Ohio to Obama at 80%, even when the sides changed and changed back to Obama.

In Florida, the lead has widened for the last 15% and they've been counting extra democrat votes since then. Just call it already!
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Watching Donald Trump's breakdown on twitter might actually be the highlight of the night for me.

please do link.
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Watching Donald Trump's breakdown on twitter might actually be the highlight of the night for me.
Do you think he'll shut the fuck up about the popular vote now?
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Did Mitt Romney Win?
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Come on Romney . .just let it go
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So the Republicans run a moderate in an election against a President with an unemployment rate near 8% and still lose.

They are in big trouble, nationally. The demographics stats - relative to the big EV states are troubling for them. And especially if Obama has a solid second term and Hillary runs in 2016. Furthermore the young conservatives (say 40 and younger) don't give a shit about their social issues and culture war and trend more libertarian.

I am glad it wasn't as close as I thought but that's what I get for listening to Rove.
He was right in 2004? That was the only reason I gave it any credence.

But I am definitely going to try to catch Bill-O tomorrow night.
If he doesn't hammer Dick Morris into tiny pieces, I'll be disappointed.
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apparently the 18-29s turned out in higher numbers than in 2008.

all of Deep's tsk-tsking seems to have worked.
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Still close in WA, but approval is still in the lead.
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The GOP definitely need a new game plan, a new platform, a total overhaul of the way their party does things. I think people are indeed genuinely annoyed with and bothered by the extreme right position they've taken on social issues in particular, and, as you note, as the younger generations start coming up and having more influence, they're going to be much more progressive and open on these matters. They really need to learn to either get off that altogether or come to the center more or something.
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please do link.
Here ya go! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

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Do you think he'll shut the fuck up about the popular vote now?
I want Stephen Colbert to dip is balls in Trump's mouth like he offered. That'll shut him up.
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So the Republicans run a moderate in an election against a President with an unemployment rate near 8% and still lose.

They are in big trouble, nationally. The demographics stats - relative to the big EV states are troubling for them. And especially if Obama has a solid second term and Hillary runs in 2016. Furthermore the young conservatives (say 40 and younger) don't give a shit about their social issues and culture war and trend more libertarian.

I am glad it wasn't as close as I thought but that's what I get for listening to Rove.
He was right in 2004? That was the only reason I gave it any credence.

But I am definitely going to try to catch Bill-O tomorrow night.
If he doesn't hammer Dick Morris into tiny pieces, I'll be disappointed.
I don't know how moderate he is though, right now. He seemed to move to accomodate the tea party. Paul Ryan as the VP, he flip-flopped and recently favored the gay marriage ban after opposing it a year or so ago. Obviously said things against abortion.

Let's just say Romney is no Chris Christie. Christie as an example, supports civil unions and leaving marriage to the states and opposes any ban on gay marriage. Christie is pro-life "with exceptions", but again, wouldn't seek to ban it, and at least is honest. Now that is truly moderate, at least nowadays with the country becoming more socially liberal.
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Romney better fucking concede within the next hour.
I don't take him as a sore loser. But I can't imagine it's easy.
He's been running for President for most of his life.
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i'm going to have to head to bed.

it's been fun.

but it also could not have been fun.

i'm just glad that tonight proved what i know to be true ... the world only spins forward.

i go to sleep more included, and more equal, than when i woke up this morning.

and it is a big deal.
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I don't know how moderate he is though, right now. He seemed to move to accomodate the tea party. Paul Ryan as the VP, he flip-flopped and recently favored the gay marriage ban after opposing it a year or so ago. Obviously said things against abortion.
That's just politics though. He has a large batshit segment to his party that he had to pacify in order to win the nomination. I don't hold it against him because having him as a potential President was a lot more appealing than Santorum and Newt and Bachmann, etc. Obama has pandered to the Lefty loons before as well. Politics is politics. I've learned to ignore most of the static.
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