2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign Discussion Thread-Part 11

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There's an e-mail being passed around that a Pennsylvanian judge ordered Obama to show his birth certificate to prove he was born in the U.S.

The fear of Obama becoming president has reached hysteria. :rolleyes:
 
Did you notice that Sting disappears when his guys are losing? For example, McCain took a turn and boom....no Sting.

Go back to the Iraq war....when all the looting and screw ups were happening....no Sting.

Hmmmmm......

Just an observation.
 
There's an e-mail being passed around that a Pennsylvanian judge ordered Obama to show his birth certificate to prove he was born in the U.S.

The fear of Obama becoming president has reached hysteria. :rollseyes:

I believe the case was tossed out of court.
 
But there has to be SOME WAY we can stop the colored man from becoming president! For God's sake, he's an Arab no good Muslim who bombed us on 9/11. Isn't anyone paying attention??????????
 
I was in a bar last night with a friend having a couple of beers. There was a guy sitting next to us, in a suit, having a drink, mumbling to himself, and shaking visibly. I wondered what was so terribly wrong that this guy was in this condition.
Then I heard him yelling to the bartender that he can't believe this country is going to elect a muslim, arab, n-word to the white house.
I waited to see if the bartender, an Irish guy, would say anything. He just nodded and said "I hear ya".


Racism. It's everywhere.
 
I was in a bar last night with a friend having a couple of beers. There was a guy sitting next to us, in a suit, having a drink, mumbling to himself, and shaking visibly. I wondered what was so terribly wrong that this guy was in this condition.
Then I heard him yelling to the bartender that he can't believe this country is going to elect a muslim, arab, n-word to the white house.
I waited to see if the bartender, an Irish guy, would say anything. He just nodded and said "I hear ya".

Wow! This was in NYC???
 
Empathy and compassion are EVIL. I think they might even be Communist beliefs. Obama like the gay :uhoh: And the disabled too. Run for your lives!


CBS News

(CAPE GIRARDEAU, MO.) - Taking the stage as one of the pre-program speakers at a Sarah Palin rally here in Rush Limbaugh’s hometown, Sen. Kit Bond, R-Missouri, fired up the crowd by warning them about Barack Obama’s judicial philosophy.

“Just this past week, we saw what Barack Obama said about judges,” Bond said. “He said, ‘I’m tired of these judges who want to follow what the Founding Fathers said and the Constitution. I want judges who have a heart, have an empathy for the teenage mom, the minority, the gay, the disabled. We want them to show empathy. We want them to show compassion.’”

Bond then seized on Obama’s comments to Joe The Plumber, saying the Democrat wants to redistribute wealth.

“He thinks this country should be a government—not a government of laws, but a government of compassion and empathy, not of laws,” Bond said.

Bond was referring to Obama's answer to "Joe the Plumber's" question earlier this month "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?"

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama said on Oct. 12 in Holland, Ohio. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Palin is scheduled to take the stage in just a few minutes, but there are still thousands of people in line outside waiting the Show-Me Center.

After this event, Palin heads to Erie, Pennsylvania, for a closed national security roundtable and a rally. She’ll end her day with a rally in Williamsport, home of the Little League World Series.
 
I was wondering...

about.com

Sep 7 2008

Can the winner of the World Series predict who will become President of the United States? If the American League wins, will that mean a win for Republican candidate John McCain? If the National League wins, does that mean Barack Obama will become the 44th president?

Until 1976, it appeared that the World Series was an accurate predictor of the presidential race. From 1952 to 1976, if the American League won the World Series, then the President would be a Republican. If the National League won, then the election would go to the Democrat. However, it all changed after that.

Previous to the 2000 election when George Bush beat out Al Gore to become the 42nd president, the World Series had incorrectly predicted the last three elections. However, with the Yankees (American League) win in 2000, the superstition held true. Bush won the election through the electoral college even though he was defeated in the popular vote.

Seriously, though, many Americans swear by patterns and coincidences to help them predict presidential elections. Other examples of 'predictors' from past and present years include the following:

* If the Washington Redskins win the week of the election, this means a win for the incumbent party. This has held true since 1936.
* Whoever's Halloween mask sells the most will be the next president. (If more kids want to be Obama than McCain...)
* When companies produce 'competing' products, whichever sells the most is supposed to predict the winner. For example, if a company has cups with images of Obama and McCain in 2008, the one which outsells the other would be a predictor.
* If the Dow Jones Average gains over the time from August to October, this predicts a win for the incumbent.
* If the Los Angeles Lakers win the the championship, then the Republican candidate will win.

Obviously some of these predictors have a greater basis in reality than others. While most people would say that the Lakers or the Redskins winning is more chance than anything else, the state of the economy does have a huge impact on the presidential election.

After all of these predictors, are we any closer to knowing who will win the 2008 election? As of this writing, no. What we do know is that the election will probably be close and will be hotly contested no matter what the outcome. However, one thing is fairly certain, at least for this year, John McCain will be rooting for the American League team and Barack Obama will be cheering on the National League team as the 2008 World Series draws to an end.
 
I watched it. I liked it. He's not as cute as Cole Hamels but it still worked for me

Obama ad boosts network ratings--The Live Feed

UPDATED: If Barack Obama fails to win the election, perhaps the networks should hire him to entertain viewers on Wednesday nights.

On average, Obama's 30-minute primetime infomercial managed to outperform the usual broadcast programming in the 8 p.m. time period.

The Obama special was seen by 26.3 million viewers across broadcasters CBS, NBC and Fox, according to preliminary Nielsen ratings. If you add Spanish-language broadcaster Univision, that total climbs to 29.9 million.
 
Hey diamond, you better launch a diamondinvestigation into Auntie Zeituni too

Obama aunt may live in Boston
She has worked for BHA, city says

October 30, 2008

This story was written and reported by Adrian Walker, Michael Levenson, and Sally Jacobs of the Globe staff.

Barack Obama's story, spanning from his mother's roots in Kansas to his father's in Kenya and his childhood spent in Hawaii and Indonesia, has been well chronicled and a central part of his allure as a candidate who transcends national and racial lines.

But one small part might have remained largely hidden from public view. In a first-floor apartment of a brick public housing complex on a side street in South Boston lives a woman who city officials believe is Obama's aunt. Her name is Zeituni Onyango, as in the "Auntie Zeituni" in one of his books, a polite and playful resident with an accent that recalls a more exotic place than where she is now.

She has shunned public attention and made little fuss over Obama's meteoric rise from modest means to the near pinnacle of American politics. But word has been spreading among those in her building.

William McGonigle, deputy director of the Boston Housing Authority, said Onyango told agency officials earlier this week that she is Obama's aunt. McGonigle said Onyango has been a resident of public housing for several years. She has worked for the agency as a resident health advocate, receiving a small stipend. He said she had hoped to avoid attention resulting from the campaign.

The Globe could not confirm last night, through genealogical records or the Obama campaign, that there is a relationship. The Obama campaign declined to comment or acknowledge a relationship.

During two visits by reporters to her apartment yesterday morning and afternoon, and in a phone conversation last night, Onyango made clear her desire to stay out of the way of Obama's campaign, with only days to go before the election.

"I'm proud of everybody," she said. "I ask God to bless everybody."

Chuckling to a reporter, she added, "I'm praying for you, not only him."

She said she wanted to wait to tell her story in full.

"We'll talk after the election," she said. "Come talk to me after the fifth."

Outside her apartment, her nurse said Onyango has been so worried about the attention that she has been calling public housing police when reporters show up. Last night, officers stationed outside her home shooed away reporters who had come to talk to her.

Federal Elections Commission records show Onyango donated at least five times to the Obama campaign in July and September of this year. Three of the donations were for $5 apiece, and two of the donations were for $25. She listed her job as a volunteer resident health advocate.

Other records on a website, The Huffington Post, show she gave a total of $260 to the campaign.

The Times of London reported in a story first posted on its website last night that a photograph of Zeituni Onyango was shown to George Hussein Onyango, Barack Obama's half brother in Nairobi. He confirmed that it was their aunt, the newspaper reported.

George Onyango, 26, the youngest child of Barack Obama Sr., said he had spent weekends with his Aunt Zeituni when he was growing up, and instantly recognized her. Onyango said his aunt had left for the United States about eight years ago but sent him e-mails.

"She left to find work and I suppose she thought her life would be better there," he said. "She was kind and caring."

Zeituni Onyango is Barack Obama's paternal aunt, one of several children fathered by Hussein Onyango Obama. In his book, "Dreams From My Father," Obama describes meeting the tall, slender woman for the first time in Kenya as he got off the airplane.

Obama's sister, Auma, introduced him to his aunt, saying: " 'Barack, this is our Auntie Zeituni. Our father's sister,' " Obama wrote.

" 'Welcome home,' Zeituni said, kissing me on both cheeks," Obama wrote.

Obama's late father, Barack Obama Sr., and many of his siblings were raised in Alego, a village near Lake Victoria. The candidate's paternal grandfather was a cook and a respected village elder. At least one of Obama's uncles remains in the village. A few of his seven surviving siblings - his father had three wives and many girlfriends - live in Africa.

Obama's father was one of a group of talented young Kenyans who were sent to the United States in 1959 on an "airlift" to attend a university.

Obama Sr. attended the University of Hawaii, where he met Ann Dunham, Obama's mother. He left to study economics at Harvard University when Obama Jr. was 1 year old. He would see his son only one more time in his life, during a monthlong visit to Hawaii in 1971.

A chronic drinker, Obama Sr. died in a car crash in Nairobi in 1982. He was 46, one year younger than Barack Obama is now.

Back in Boston, a BHA official who visited Onyango this week found the walls of her apartment adorned with photographs of the Democratic presidential nominee, including some that appeared to be more than two decades old.
 
My two pennies worth on your election,

McCain wants to put the US on better standing with it's allies but he accuses Obama of being a socialist....cough. Well McCain, you've just stuck your middle finger up at every US ally in western Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, NZ, and others. These countries are all what you deem "socialist". Not only do these countries share the battlefield with you, but they have the highest of living standards, global financial leadership, and at least offer universal healthcare to its taxpayers. Some things the US does not have and trying to achieve.

But we know what McCain is really saying and doing. He's preying on the ignorant voters who see "socialism" and evil communism as the same thing. He's essentially tricking the poor sods, which is their own fault, to get their vote. This is nothing new in politics of course.

Yet, this is the guy that flogs his slogan "Country First" but in reality he's saying some of his possible vote getters are ignorant. He knows it, we know it, unfortunately the "Joe the Plumbers" out there have lost the plot. That's putting the country first isn't it? Trick the dumb dumbs. This guy is old news, at retirement age no doubt, so his better slogan should have been, Change We Need. But he's not offering that is he?
 
Rush put a spin on this story today by saying: Obama's aunt lives in a slum in Boston, see how he takes care of his own family? And we don't even know if she's legal :shocked:
 
Rush put a spin on this story today by saying: Obama's aunt lives in a slum in Boston, see how he takes care of his own family? And we don't even know if she's legal :shocked:

Is Rush legal ?

Has he shown us his birth certificate ?

Has his Grandmother commented on his status ?
 
YouTube - Joe The Plumber stood up McCain

msnbc

DEFIANCE, Ohio -- "Where is Joe? Is Joe here with us today?"

That's the question John McCain asked roughly 6,000 people at Defiance Junior High School here this morning, But the correct answer was no -- Joe the Plumber was nowhere to be found.

There are conflicting reports about where or when or if Joe will appear with McCain at some point during his two-day bus tour of Ohio, but the candidate clearly thought that he was meeting him here in Defiance, the first stop on the tour.

While riffing on a common line from his stump speech about Obama's desire to "spread the wealth," McCain confidently proclaimed, "Joe's with us today. Joe where are ya? Where is Joe? Is Joe here with us today? Joe, I thought you were here today."

Then the senator covered up for Joe's absence by saying, "All right, well you're all Joe the Plumber. So all of ya stand up ,and say I thank you." McCain went on to say that he had seen Joe on TV this morning, and he asked the crowd to "give him a round of applause for what he's done for America.

McCain also hit Obama on some comments he made to ABC's Charlie Gibson last night when asked if he had thought about what he would do after November 4th if he lost. "Last night, Sen. Obama said that if he lost he would return to the Senate and try again in four years with a second act. That sounds like a great idea to me. Let's help him make it happen."

But Obama didn't tell Gibson that he'd make another White House run; he said he looked forward returning to the Senate and working with the next president and Congress.

"Look," Obama said, "when I started this campaign we were the longest of long shots, and Michelle and I were extraordinarily happy before I started running. And I'm a relatively young man. Ya know, they say there are no second acts in politics, but I think there are enough exceptions out there, that I could envision returning to the Senate and just doing some terrific work with the next President and next Congress."

A local school district official confirmed after the event that of the 6,000 people estimated by the fire marshal to be in attendance this morning, more than 4,000 were bused in from schools in the area. The entire 2,500-student Defiance School District was in attendance, the official said, in addition to at least three other schools from neighboring districts, one of which sent 14 buses.
 
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