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Old 10-16-2008, 02:54 PM   #616
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Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded
By Andrew M. Seder aseder@timesleader.com
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SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.



The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him."

News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

“I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.

He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.

Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.”

“We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”

Hackett said he did not hear the remark.

Slavoski said Singleton was interviewed Wednesday and stood by his story but couldn’t give a description of the man because he didn’t see him he only heard him.

When contacted Wednesday afternoon, Singleton referred questions to Times-Tribune Metro Editor Jeff Sonderman. Sonderman said, “We stand by the story. The facts reported are true and that’s really all there is.”

Slavoski said the agents take such threats or comments seriously and immediately opened an investigation but after due diligence “as far as we’re concerned it’s closed unless someone comes forward.” He urged anyone with knowledge of the alleged incident to call him at 346-5781. “We’ll run at all leads,” he said.


This story also appears on the following websites...

15 seconds in....
maybe the FBI should watch youtube.
YouTube - Obama Hatred At McCain-Palin Rallies: "Terrorist! Kill Him!"
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:59 PM   #617
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I think they're talking about a different rally. (one in PA this week vs. one in FL last week)
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:02 PM   #618
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"Who is this Barack Obama?"
"Terrorist!" "Kill him!"
Strange look
"You ask those questions, and all you get is a barrage of insults."

With a lot of goodwill, one could think he indirectly criticised his audience... with a lot of goodwill.
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Here are the latest Gallup results as McCain and Obama went into the final debate. These results just came out this afternoon and involve polling done in the two days before and the day of the debate.

Obama 49%
McCain 43%

So, Obama's lead is down to just 6 points among registered voters, plus this is the first time Obama has been below 50% in over two weeks.

A poll among what gallup calls likely voters offers some hope for McCain. Here are the results of that poll:

Obama 49%
McCain 47%

This result is within the margin of error for the poll.


But, the electoral college is still looking grim at the moment for McCain. If the election were held today, realclearpolitics predicts and electoral victory for Obama:

Obama 364
McCain 174

RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map

That electoral college result is very similar to Clinton VS. Dole in 1996.
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Can I make a formal request that Diamond stop posting all of his articles in huge letters?
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Can I make a formal request that Diamond stop posting


Couldn't resist.


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i second that.

i think he posts in huge letters cuz he's old fart who can't see for shit..
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^ That was unnecessary.

While I would hardly say diamond posts "all" his articles in that format, I agree that posting articles in giant font sizes is too obnoxious to let continue. It doesn't help when multiple people then proceed to quote the entire post, though, either.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:39 PM   #624
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ok, i will stop w the bill board posting, except to accenuate a word or phrase here and there on rare occassions.



fair enough?

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Yup.
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Yeah, I didn't mean all the articles, just the few he's posted in the past two or three days.

Thanks.
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Forgive me.

It's not always easy being one of the token conservatives here.

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For being meaningless, it sure is consistent.

You'd think that if it were coincidence, the numbers would be all over the place, rather than the consistent stats shown.

Btw, you can bet that if those numbers were reversed, the repubs would be rubbing our noses in that graphic morning, noon, and night.

Maybe, but then Democrats would just point fingers and say "we fix their mistakes, then they get elected and take credit!"

There are so many things wrong with a graphic like that...Economic policies of the parties have changed in the last 79 years, historical events such as the Vietnam War, WWII, energy costs, the internet bubble are not taken into account, and as I've pointed out, the negative return according the that graphic for GWB can just as easily be attributed to Reagen, GHWB, or Clinton because they all had policies as well as GWB that led to the "perfect storm" we've been seeing on Wall Street.

My point is that no presidency or economy occurs in a bubble. It doesn't just restart every time a new president is elected--events that are happening now are a result of many previous administrations, just like they did for Nixon, or Kennedy or anybody on that list.
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^ I think you just deflated all of STING's GWBush GDP posts.
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It doesn't help when multiple people then proceed to quote the entire post, though, either.
Thank you! It's one of my biggest internet pet peeves.

Once you hit "quote," you can go into the quote and chop out the extra stuff you don't need. Or if you just want to make a general comment, just snip everything after the first sentence or two.
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