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Old 10-15-2008, 05:45 PM   #586
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If this has been covered recently (like earlier in this thread or the previous one) I apologize.

I heard on the radio (at least from 2 sources) the volunteers doing Voter Registration that--
once a potential Voter writes anything down on the Registration card-- a wacky name etc, they still must turn it in.
It gets put in with the (other kinds of) Problem Pile to be checked on.
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:23 PM   #587
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Looks like it's time for the republicans to pull out all the stops.

Muslim DVD rattles voters in key battleground states

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On a Sunday morning just weeks before the presidential election, Priscilla Linsley opened her local Denver newspaper and discovered a DVD inside.

"I was shocked at the content and horrified that this had been in my Sunday paper," said Linsley, a 74-year-old Democrat, who watched about half of the video before throwing it in the trash.

"I have Muslim friends and respect Islam as a religion and felt that this was really hateful," said Linsley.

The hourlong film on DVD, "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West," was made by Israeli filmmaker Raphael Shore and shows disturbing, sometimes violent images.

Rima Barakat Sinclair, who is Muslim and a Republican, was so angry she called her local lawmakers in Denver. Video Watch voters reaction to the DVD »

"It is riddled not only with misleading facts but outright fabrication," said Barakat Sinclair.

In September, some 28 million of the "Obsession" DVD's were distributed as advertising inserts in 70 newspapers, primarily in critical swing states such as Colorado, Florida and Ohio.

It was paid for by the Clarion Fund, a nonprofit group established by the film's Israeli producer with the goal of exposing what it calls the threat of radical Islam. The Clarion Fund was created in 2006, the same year "Obsession" was released.

"Our focus is to educate with our movies and raise awareness, not influence elections," said Gregory Ross, a Clarion spokesman.

But Larry Sabato, a political observer and director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, said it's naïve to think such a video won't influence undecided voters.

"It's pretty obvious that the group sponsoring it wants people to think more about terrorism, about national security, about Middle East politics and maybe less about the economy," said Sabato. "Well, that obviously favors one side -- the Republicans."

Because a number of Americans still believe, incorrectly, that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama is a Muslim, political observers said they believe the DVD plays directly into that misperception.

Clarion said neither the campaign of GOP candidate Sen. John McCain or of Obama had anything to do with the DVD that has outraged some Muslim groups. Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American Islamic Relations, called the film anti-Muslim and politically motivated. Holding up promotional material that came with the video, Awad pointed out, "It says clearly that, 'It's our responsibility to ensure that we can all make an informed vote in November.' "
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:23 PM   #588
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I don't know. Haven't we had a few posters here in FYM take him seriously enough to refer to him as a source?
Oh please do name names. Do not be so coy! I mean with such generalizations, one might think you were referring to them.

Sorry for asking for specifics, I know it is hard.
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Sorry for asking for specifics, I know it is hard.
Is that really necessary?
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Oh please do name names. Do not be so coy! I mean with such generalizations, one might think you were referring to them.

Sorry for asking for specifics, I know it is hard.
Just recently Oscar and 2861 have used Rush as a source...
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Oh please do name names. Do not be so coy! I mean with such generalizations, one might think you were referring to them.

Sorry for asking for specifics, I know it is hard.
That kid, 2861.


Specific enough for you?
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I am really trying to listen to both sides with an open mind, and McCain is seemingly holding his own (considering his last debate),
well, both are.
But it's really bothering me how McCain is so condesending and smart-assed.
You can also tell it's very hard for him to keep his composure.
He has def twisted so much shit around... and even when Obama sitting right there, refutes and/or explains,
he still insists on telling the American public what he believes is facts.

I wish I could punch his smirky face.

Sorry for the violence, but he just reminds me of someone.
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Anybody know if the POed Clinton voters are still all in love with voting for McCain?
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Just recently Oscar and 2861 have used Rush as a source...
Where is 2861 anyway? He hasn't posted in weeks.
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Anybody know if the POed Clinton voters are still all in love with voting for McCain?
I'd ask Screwtape.
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Where is 2861 anyway? He hasn't posted in weeks.
Maybe he is kept busy studying, as the semester is in full progress.

But do we need to refer to anyone as "that kid"?
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It's Bush vs. Clinton 92 all over again.
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But do we need to refer to anyone as "that kid"?
Agreed, that was condescending.

Posters drop in and out a lot around here, especially during election season. That may or may not be the reason in his case, but I think anyone who mentally keeps tabs on who hangs out here will have noticed that a lot of prior regulars (from all points on the political spectrum) appear to have lost interest in discussing the election months ago.
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Is that really necessary?
I thought it was, since the statement would imply that the conservatives in the forum all have embraced Rush, yeah, I wanted to know who we were referring too.

Not everyone who thinks like a conservative finds Rush appealing. Just as I am sure not every liberal agrees with some of the more left leaning pundits.

But, I would also point out that even Rush can be right on an issue once in a while, so to say Conservatives in this forum are supportive of Rush, or imply that there is something wrong with someone because they quoted him on an issue that he may very well have made a decent point to me is silly.

Thanks Bonovox and Martha for clarifying.
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Just as I am sure not every liberal agrees with some of the more left leaning pundits.
True. I can't bear Michael Moore.
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