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Old 08-03-2001, 08:28 PM   #16
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Seeing this thread I have to tell you guys what happened to me last night. You can take from it what you will but I am telling you the truth.

The house I live in was built around 1886. It's quite old and many people have lived and died in it, including my grandmother who passed away a little over three years ago from ovarian cancer.

Before she died, my grandmother would sit up very late at night reading her scriptures or listening to church hymns to take her mind off her pain. Several times while she sat up, the door to the stairs, which is a sturdy door that shuts completely and holds well, would slowly open by itself, stay open a few moments and then close again by itself. I have always believed my grandmother because she was a very honest woman and also my brother witnessed the same thing early one morning as he was preparing for school.

I have never had any unusual experiences until last night and perhaps the summer before last. The summer before last I came downstairs late one night for a glass of water, closing the stair door behind me in a regular fashion, and after getting some water tried to go back upstairs except that the stair door wouldn't open. It was jammed as though it were locked, only the door does not lock. I tried with all my strength to get it open, using a knife and a screw driver to try and "unlock" it. Finally, it took both my grandfather and my uncle to pry the door open, nearly busting the thing in the process. I've always found this incident unusual because we've had absolutely no trouble with the door before or since. I'm still not sure what to think about it.

But what happened last night was quite strange and right now I can't explain it. I had stayed up late downloading music on the computer downstairs and around 1:30 I decided I'd better get some sleep. Everyone else had been asleep for several hours. I went upstairs to my bedroom and as I was about to pull back the covers I felt something crawling on my foot. It was a spider and stifling a scream so I wouldn't wake up anyone else (I hate spiders!) I flung it off my foot and saw it crawl under my bed. I grabbed a flashlight and some bug spray and knelt on my hands and knees next to the bed to see if I could find it to kill it because I sure didn't want that thing crawling on me when I was sleeping.

I had left my bedroom door just slightly ajar and was quite surprised when I heard a knock on the door and the door begin to open by itself. I jumped up, ran to the door, and flung the door the rest of the way open expecting to see one of my family members but there was no one. Quickly looking about, I could see no one on the landing or in the bathroom. I checked the bedrooms and everyone was sound asleep.

I then thought it must have been my little Pomeranian, but after seeing her downstairs, I knew that there was no way her short little legs could have carried her all the way down the stairs before I had a chance to see her or at least hear her. I wondered if it could have been a draft but my door is solid wood with a heavy mirror on one side and it would have taken a noticeably strong wind to push it open.

I know it sounds unbelievable and you probably won't believe me especially coming across the internet, but that is what happened. I would be more than happy to hear any logical explanation someone might offer because right now I can't think of any.

I believe in ghosts, as to what exactly I believe a ghost is I will have to go into later because I have already typed too much and I'm out of time.
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Old 08-03-2001, 09:02 PM   #17
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I believe you Cathy! Weird stuff like that has happened to me too. Sometimes there just is no other explaination and we just have to say, oh well, that was weird but it had to be a ghost! I believe in them too, I really do. I want to tell them sometime when I feel like writing a long story, I really want to get it right. Thanks Cathy, I enjoyed reading your story.
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What are ghosts but the spirits of those who have passed on? If you believe in souls and the afterlife how could you deny the possiblity of ghosts?

Now, aliens. So the Good Book doesn't mention them, huh? What about Ezekiel being taken to Heaven in a flaming chariot? Could that not have been a flying craft? How would the primitive thinking peoples of those days describe something they did not understand and had never seen, by comparing it to something they had seen, like a chariot. A flying flaming chariot sounds like some sort of machine operated flying craft to me. But even though that is just speculation that has been rehashed in several 'books of weird things', we don't know for sure!

Also on the subject of aliens not being mentioned in the Good Book: neither are computers, cars, or the entire Western Hemisphere, but that doesn't mean they don't exist, does it? Maybe we weren't supposed to be told all. Maybe some things were for God to know and us to find out!!

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Old 08-04-2001, 03:44 AM   #19
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What the fuck is the difference of an alien being from another planet and an alien being from outer space. ~rougerum
You didn't have to be rude, rougerum. Have some manners, I have never ever been rude to you, nor have I used 'fuck' when talking to you.

I have never said that there is a difference between those two, of course. You clearly misunderstood. What my point was: that aliens exist, but they are not from outer space; they are demons instead i.e the whole alienmania thing has been invented by the devil to confuse people. I hope 80sU2isbest could explain it better, if I can't, since he seems to understand this reasoning. However, in my first post, I said that I wasn't sure whether I believe this, it was a theory flying in the air around me but I am willing to question it to see if I can believe it or not.

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You'd be surprised to how much I use fuck in my daily talk so don't take any offense, if I wanted to insult you, it would be much worse and you would know it in a second like a person can identify bad taste.

I want to know how you possibly believe aliens are actually demons. I never ever heard of aliens being created by the devil to confuse people in my life. Thats is something completely new to me. I still think what I said is the most right since it seems the most probable, yours is just a belief with not much to back it up. People believe in god but no one can prove he exists. I will respect your opinion but go for the most probable.

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Old 08-10-2001, 12:41 PM   #21
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First of all, let me say that I am a Christian.

I'm not sure whether I belive in ghosts or the undead, probably because I've never had any experiences with them. I do however believe in extra-terrestrial life forms. It just doesn't seem possible to me that out of the whole ENTIRE universe, Earth is the only planet that is able to support life. Keep in mind that the universe spans unfathomable light years beyond our solar system. Just because other extra-terrestrial civilizations are not mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean that they don't exist.

An interesting thought just occurred to me right now: What if there is another civilization on another planet in the far reaches of the universe that have Christians that have been touched by God in the way many people on earth have been, and that have their own Bible that maybe tells about Jesus's life on EARTH? Has anybody else ever thought of this, or am I just on crack?
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I hope 80sU2isbest could explain it better, if I can't, since he seems to understand this reasoning.
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Hi, of course, I'm no expert in the matter of aliens, but here's what I believe. While I do not think that ET aliens exist, it's not something that would rock my world if I found out that they do. However, I do have strong beliefs about them.
I believe in God, who is all good. I believe in Satan, who is completely evil. But Satan is not some "evil god" as some seem to think. He is no god at all. He is a created being, like the rest of us. He is a fallen angel, cast out of Heaven by the great war angel, Michael. As such, he is very limited n what he can do. He can't force us to follow his evil path, so what does he do? He sends us secret messages - whispers in our ears. He tells us to do evil things. But he's full of lies. The lies he tells us are commonplace; (1)No one loves us, not even God (2)In fact, God doesn't exist (3)Go ahead and sin, you're human. But among his lies, I think the chief lie, his crowning achievement is this; "Satan Does Not Exist". He's got the world fooled. We're all running around thinking that this life is all there is, or that evil is just a figment of our imgination. So, he's got us right where he wants us, for if we don't believe in him, he's got free reign to torture our minds, day and night. And if we don't believe in him, we certainly won't recognize him when we see him. So he sends his demon minions out to get us to concentrate on other things besides himsef and his arch enemy, my Savior Jesus Christ. One way is through the occult. If he can get people to open up a door, he's gonna walk right in. So, he uses Tarot readers, Ouija Boards, Mediums, and other Spiritualists who convince us that they've somehow made contact with the dead. The Bible warns against these occult practices. But Satan uses these black arts to entice his people subtly but surely into following his path that leads only to destruction. I believe with every ounce of my being that many people are not lying - they do indeed see apparitions, what they think are ghosts, but I call them demons trying to fool us. I think that just might be the case with ET aliens, also. While the Bible doesn't mention alien activity, it seems to fit Satan's profile to me. I look at this life as a war, because that's what it is. Not a war with each other, not with flesh and blood, but a war betwen the supernatural forces of good and evil. There's a whole other existence going on here, one we can't see, but as real as you and I. Angels and demons are all around, and they're fighting for our souls. I believe that everyone of us is involved in this war, whether we like that fact or not. I would rather not have to deal with Satan and his minions, but in this life, I must take a stand for he who laid down his life for me.

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Anyone who wants to see a ghost should probably take a trip to Gurdon or Crosset, Arkansas. Sice 1930, thousands of people have seen this ghost light and no one can come up witha rational explanation for it. It is supposed to be the ghost of a brakeman beheaded in a train accident, although i heard one guy who had seen it recently say that it was the ghost of a motorcyclist.
It still can be seen every other night or so,I'm told.

Also, I live near Hollywood, and there are MANY ghosts here!!!! (And little devils, hee hee! )
They say even the town itself is haunted,something to do with the Indians, i think.
I do know for sure that the Queen Mary in Long Beach is haunted. You go there, and damn...you can just FEEL it. Its very ethereal. I ran into a lady in Kentucky who had been there, and she said the same thing, mentioned it to me, i wasnt even gonna bring up the subject of the ghosts there.
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Old 08-11-2001, 12:47 AM   #24
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Thanks 80sU2isbest, you said it better than I did.

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Old 10-27-2001, 10:18 AM   #25
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All I have to say about ghosts is that, being evil (if such actually energy exists), they are no good to see or feel. My entire family, including me, is sensitive. Like, i can see, hear, and feel presences, something that i look forward to get free of.
about aliens I dont think that they are something evil at all. I wonder if these
'aliens' are us in a far future, when we get to dominate the technique of controlling the time. Or even a massive projection of our unconscious... who knows...


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I do know for sure that the Queen Mary in Long Beach is haunted. You go there, and damn...you can just FEEL it. Its very ethereal. I ran into a lady in Kentucky who had been there, and she said the same thing, mentioned it to me, i wasnt even gonna bring up the subject of the ghosts there.
Miss MacPhisto, I've been to the Queen Mary on several occassions starting when I was 8 years old and I know exactly what you mean. I just might not have the right words to emote. There is something very eerie about that place and although I've never seen any ghosts floating about, there is something that just "feels" heavy and a bit foreboading yet very unsettling about the ship. Especially the boiler room. It's not something I can explain, it's just something I feel. You and I aren't alone in feeling this way so at least we aren't insane, right? That place is a parapsychologist's dream, and there's been legitimate and documented cases regarding paranormal activities at the Queen Mary over the years.

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This is a thread that really intrigues me personally. It's awesome too - so many different takes on a subject most people write off as hogwash.

I have more than a couple of stories to clog up this forum, but I'll digress for now unless some of you want a late night bedtime story. I'll just say that my first inexplicable paranormal experience happened to me when I had just turned 4 years old. I can descirbe what happened in detail, and so can my parents and brother who were present at the time... but we can not for the lives of us, give a reasonable explanation as to what exactly occurred. (that probably doesn't make any sense... but...) Though I think it's easy to chock what happened to me at 4 years old as another ghost story, I feel that it's hard to explain or describe to just anybody given it's weird inexplicable nature. The same goes with a lot of paranormal activity. Like I said up above, there's a lot of folks out there that say it's all hogwash.

So anyway.

After that big mess of words I wrote, I have a few inquiries regarding Catholicism and excorcism. This is something that has always been fascinating to me so I though I might as well take the opportunity to field some questions.

Is there an explanation for it other than demonic presence in the human body, or is there perhaps a deeper meaning as to why certain people are chosen by these supposed exorcists? And how about the act of an exorcism - what things must be addressed by a priest before he makes a final assesssment and performs an excorcism - are there guidelines he must adhere to in order to make an assessment as to whether or not an exorcism will be performed? How often, if ever, are they performed and by what order of priests may perform them? Using past exorcisms, what "kind" of person is the most afflicted by excorcists... children, teens, adults, seniors? And last but not least, how is a priest "trained" in the field of exorcism(s)?

I know that's a lot to ask, but I'm just curious. *shrugs*
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I don't know much exactly about exorcism as I'm not Catholic. All I learnt about the subject I learnt from the movie. However, I do have a close friend who was possessed by demons, he was Catholic then. He was persuaded to go to an Anglican church where they prayed for him and he went berserk for a few minutes, but after that he was purged of it. He's been a Protestant ever since. That's one story.

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**thinks this thread is a ghost**

Wow, this one is back? Good, I liked it the first time, meant to post my ghost story, never got around to it.

Maybe I will just in time for Halloween.
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Miss MacPhisto, I've been to the Queen Mary on several occassions starting when I was 8 years old and I know exactly what you mean.
Whoa, cool! Glad to hear there are others.
Actually i met this older lady in a gift shop at the Kentucky Derby Museum a few years ago, she noticed my Queen Mary t-shirt and asked me if i could feel the presence and if i had heard the stories. I couldnt belive it at the time, i had thought i was the only one. There is definitely something there, i need to spend the night and try and find out. http://www.queenmary.com http://www.ghostsandlegends.com

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