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Old 08-29-2007, 09:06 PM   #1
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100 Year Old Celebrates Birthday by Smoking a Cigarette

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Quote: It goes to show you, smoking doesn't kill you: Bad genetics do. That and the fact that she doesn't smoke 5 packs a day, only 5 cigarettes... moderation is key to everything, though. Good for her--I hope I live that long.

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Old 08-29-2007, 09:21 PM   #3
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Only smokers die about, what, ten years earlier on average? Bless those 100 year old smokers though, what would smokers do without those straws to grasp.
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I'm allergic to tobacco, and around some cigarettes I get sick to my stomach
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Dammit, toothy! She is proof that smoking doesn't cause cancer! Can't you read???
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Re: 100 Year Old Celebrates Birthday by Smoking a Cigarette

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Quote: It goes to show you, smoking doesn't kill you: Bad genetics do.
You have to be completely blind to see that the case is exactly the opposite.

Smoking will shorten your life, look at the average lifetime smoker.

But yes good genetics will sometimes beat the odds.

But I will agree we all die, it's just a matter of how. I may get hit by a bus in the next hour or I may die slowly in agony due to lung cancer... we don't know. But our life dictates the odds.
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iron horse: what can we do to help you quit smoking?
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:28 PM   #8
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I don't mind non-smokers - after all, they have rights just like anyone else - but I do object if they get in the way of my cigar smoke.

Great essay from A.N. Wilson here:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../20/do2005.xml

"What do the following have in common: Oscar Wilde, Henry James, Joseph Conrad, Virginia Woolf, T S Eliot, W B Yeats, Charles Dickens, William Makepeace Thackeray, Evelyn Waugh, Philip Larkin and Kingsley Amis?

The answer is, of course, that if they were to come back to life in Gordon Brown's Britain and wanted to go out to their club, or a restaurant or café, they would not be allowed to indulge in a habit which sustained them during the most creative phases of their lives.
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This great nicotine cloud of witnesses made me have two thoughts. One was the simple question - why did the people of England accept this draconian ban on their private pleasures?

As far as I am aware, David Hockney, among public figures, was alone in giving vociferous condemnation of the bossy and un-English law.

The so-called Opposition parties, of course, were all so anxious to appease the health-fanatics who make up a proportion of the electorate that they did not dare to say: "Halt! Let the men and women of England, and the publicans of England, be the ones who decide who should smoke, and where, not some risible Government minister".

But another, sadder thought occurs to me. This attack on basic liberty, which was allowed through without any significant protest, might mark the end not merely of smoking, but of literature."



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iron horse: what can we do to help you quit smoking?
Bit patronising, frankly.
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Have you ever heard the expression, "The exception proves the rule." ?
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"What do the following have in common: Oscar Wilde, Henry James, Joseph Conrad, Virginia Woolf, T S Eliot, W B Yeats, Charles Dickens, William Makepeace Thackeray, Evelyn Waugh, Philip Larkin and Kingsley Amis?

But did any of these guys have the scientific evidence of first hand and second hand smoke that we have now?
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Bit patronising, frankly.
Well Iron's thread's are usually very patronising to science, so I think there was a point trying to be made.
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But did any of these guys have the scientific evidence of first hand and second hand smoke that we have now?
They probably lived in a far healthier environment, as their world was not abjectly subject to the tyranny of the motor car.

You know, I'd take the non-smoking lobby seriously if they complained as vociferously about health problems caused by the internal combustion engine which they never, ever do.
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They probably lived in a far healthier environment, as their world was not abjectly subject to the tyranny of the motor car.

You know, I'd take the non-smoking lobby seriously if they complained as vociferously about health problems caused by the internal combustion engine which they never, ever do.
But cars serve a purpose, whereas smoking only benefits tobacco farmers, as opposed to a much larger group of people.
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You know, I'd take the non-smoking lobby seriously if they complained as vociferously about health problems caused by the internal combustion engine which they never, ever do.
Well it's true that pumping your own gas is close to smoking a half a pack(why I always put the lock on and walk away), but come on sometimes we have to fight our battles one at a time. We all know that changing the reliabilaty on oil is much different than asking smokers to smoke in certain places, come on the two aren't even comparable.
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