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Old 08-29-2007, 11:51 PM   #16
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Bit patronising, frankly.


i've never known a smoker who didn't want to quit.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:53 PM   #17
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Well it's true that pumping your own gas is close to smoking a half a pack(why I always put the lock on and walk away),


for real?

fuck. glad i dont drive, but the whole world now looks like a minefield when you've got lung damage.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:56 PM   #18
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i've never known a smoker who didn't want to quit.
Right, because they are brow beaten into needing to quit by other people. I have no issue with smokers, I don't smoke, I think that they have the right to be stupid; but the anti-smoking lobby has proven itself capable of using government force to make people stop doing an activity that they know is harming them.

As for the initial poster pieces of anecdotal evidence are worthless, holding a contrarian point of view that is at odds with the evidence as a means to defend against the facts is stupid. Smoking kills, people have a right to kill themselves; make an argument for freedom, not against reality.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:58 PM   #19
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I don't get how people pick up smoking because it's such a difficult vice to pick up.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:00 AM   #20
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:01 AM   #21
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Smoking kills, people have a right to kill themselves; make an argument for freedom, not against reality.
I have no problem with killing yourself. We all eat unhealthy food, or have unhealthy habits...

But if your habit is killing others then I do have a problem, and if it's something we can limit like second hand smoke then I see no problem with it...
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:02 AM   #22
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I don't get how people pick up smoking because it's such a difficult vice to pick up.
How is it difficult to pick up?
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:23 AM   #23
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How is it difficult to pick up?
I don't get it either in the sense that it's extemely expensive. I know in the US you don't have very high taxes on cigarettes, but here our taxes per pack exceed 70% so we're talking in the neighbourhood of $10/pack.

Given that smoking has really become a pasttime of lower and lower middle classes (those are the socio-economic groups experiencing the lowest reduction rates), how many people do you know who can afford $140-$280/week on cigarettes alone? That's insanity.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:45 AM   #24
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Your right, they should be slashing those sin taxes, I mean smokers shuffle off their mortal coil quicker and earlier without collecting much return for a lifetime of taxes yet they get punished for it.
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Your right, they should be slashing those sin taxes, I mean smokers shuffle off their mortal coil quicker and earlier without collecting much return for a lifetime of taxes yet they get punished for it.
Yeah, right. And what do they cost the healthcare system before they "shuffle off"? I think you'd be surprised by the numbers.
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Hmmm, good point, probably should start putting more harmful materials in there.
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For every 100 year old who celebrates by lighting up, how many never make it to half that age because of smoking (or second hand smoke)? When the answer is zero then you might have a case.
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She doesn't inhale. That's the key part.
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What a sad thing to do on any birthday let alone on a 100th birthday.
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:28 PM   #30
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i've never known a smoker who didn't want to quit.


Can you count me as a friend?

A tobacco smoking friend?

*only in moderaration, of course



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