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Old 10-26-2007, 09:34 PM   #106
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are we forgetting that a 15 year old white girl can not legally consent to have sex

therefore this white girl was raped

that's the law
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:37 PM   #107
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are we forgetting that a 15 year old white girl can not legally consent to have sex

therefore this white girl was raped

that's the law
So if a 17 year old is dating a 15 year old, and they have sex, it's pedophilia? I'm sorry, but that's crazy.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:42 PM   #108
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either we are a nation of laws

or we are not

this is just one more example of "judicial activism"



it is not "cruel or unusual" to imprison a black rapist

it is not what "the founders" intended
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Old 10-27-2007, 05:56 PM   #109
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I'm curious where all the folks championing Wilson as some kind of victim would draw the line. What if he was 18 and she 15? What if they were 17 & 14? What about 16 and 14, or 18 and 16? What's OK, and what's not?

Deep I know your posts were sarcasm, but aren't we a nation of laws? Basically the defense in all of this was "what he did wasn't that bad", and I guess in the grand scheme of things it wasn't, but the law is the law...except in this case, where apparently it wasn't. Honestly my thought on this is the same as my thought on lots of things...you broke the law, and got caught. It sucks, but that's the way it is. People do excessive time all over the country (every non-violent drug offender, for example). Why is this kid so special? Why should he get a pass?
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The point is that NOBODY should be doing excessive time disproportiante to the crime. It isn't just about this one case - at least not for me it isn't.

Take those non-violent drug offenders you brought up as an example - there are people who did pot and got caught in the 60s who are STILL in prison today for it. Is that not completely ridiculous?

Or, recently, there was a mother who served alcoholic beverages to her 16 year old son and his friends of the same age(or thereabouts) at his 16th birthday party. She is now serving a 2-year sentence in prison, and her son has subsequently dropped out of high school because of it because he couldn't take all the attention he was getting for it. It is outrageous. In this incident, nobody got in a car under the influence - the mother collected car keys to make sure nobody left during the night and required everyone to spend the night at the house - nobody got hurt under the influence, it was just a mother serving alcohol to these teenagers so that she could supervise it rather than them getting it through other means. If anything this is MORE responsible. And she's serving jail time for it.

It's not just about this one Wilson case, imo. It's about judges making examples of people who have commited minor crimes by giving them excessive sentences merely to put another notch in their belt. Judges are politicians too.
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I havent read thro all the posts.......but wouldnt the girl have commited a crime also if the guy had? Think about it...she was the one who comitted the act....the guy was the recipient.
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are we forgetting that a 15 year old white girl can not legally consent to have sex

therefore this white girl was raped

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Out of curiosity...whats the law for 15 yr old black girls? Is it in some way different?
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I havent read thro all the posts.......but wouldnt the girl have commited a crime also if the guy had? Think about it...she was the one who comitted the act....the guy was the recipient.
But she was a minor therefore the law says she must have been coerced. Hence why it's called statuatory rape.
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Lets say the pair of them held up a store, and she did the robbing....what would be the outcome? Would she still walk free?
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She would likely be tried as a juvenile.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:38 PM   #116
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Honestly my thought on this is the same as my thought on lots of things...you broke the law, and got caught. It sucks, but that's the way it is. People do excessive time all over the country (every non-violent drug offender, for example). Why is this kid so special? Why should he get a pass?
If I understood the articles I read correctly, the majority opinion of the GA Supreme Court in releasing Wilson last week was that changes made in GA law subsequent to (and partly in response to) Wilson's initial conviction--which reduced most consensual sex acts between teenagers, one or both of whom are below the age of consent, to misdemeanors punishable by up to one year in prison with no sex offender registration--reflected a significant enough shift in societal attitudes towards consensual sex between teenagers as to justify deeming Wilson's original 10-year sentence "cruel and unusual punishment," even though the new law itself couldn't be applied retroactively to his case.
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are we forgetting that a 15 year old white girl can not legally consent to have sex
She was black--I'm not sure why you keep saying that. The DA's (public) justification all along for pursuing the aggravated child molestation charge--minimum 10-year-penalty, at least at the time--was that "if I or this office had turned our heads and looked the other way when these two young ladies and their families cried out for help, I would have justifiably been accused of putting a deaf ear to African-American victims" (Atlanta Journal-Constitution, June 5, 2007).

I think a case could be made that a white boy committing the same offenses wouldn't have received such stiff charges (Jimmy Carter argued as much in a complaint to GA's Attorney General late last spring). And it did apparently happen at some point that one of the major news outlets erroneously reported that the girl was white, which caused some media confusion. Legally, however, there was no confusion about that particular detail.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:02 PM   #117
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Lets say the pair of them held up a store, and she did the robbing....what would be the outcome? Would she still walk free?
Not a very good analogy...

If she was holding up a store there would be witnesses and they could gauge if there was any coersion.

But the law sees that no one under the age of consent is "adult" enough to make the decision of having sex on their own.
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^ Besides, depending on how heinous the crime in question was, teens can potentially be tried as adults. It's been known to happen.
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