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Old 12-21-2006, 11:56 AM   #31
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Okay so the judge and the jury "had to convict." Did the prosecution "have" to press charges? I can't help thinking that SOMEbody wanted this to happen.

I'm still waiting for some concrete confirmation as to whether the race of those involved, but one thing is for certain. If indeed the girl was white, you can be damn sure that race had everything to do with how this whole thing came down.

And this is in Georgia? Come on, now. . .
if they were really out to get him then they would have found him guilty for raping the intoxicated/nearly passed out 17 year old. but he was aquitted of that. unfortunately, the oral sex with the 15 year old was on the same tape and the law says it was a mandatory 10 years.

btw they have already changed the law, but it was too late to help him
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I remember last year when a Judge in VT (I think) let a multiple offense Sex Offender off with just parole when he molested a young child repeatedly, admittedly he did this and got off.

And this young man gets 10 years for consensual sex? - you got to admit the US Judicial System works GREAT!!!
Well, I don't agree with the statutes in this particular case, but lessening one statute because someone made a crazy judgment with another isn't a great approach...
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:58 AM   #33
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This is awful - most of my 15 year old friends have boyfriends around 17/18. And I'm pretty sure most of my friends have participated in more than oral sex with their 17 year old boyfriends, yet I don't see it as perverse.

With all the anti American stuff people are saying - I'm European, and this sort of crap happens in Europe too. Especially England - we have thousands of really backward laws that everyone knows are backward but no one does anything about. It isn't just the US.
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With all the anti American stuff people are saying - I'm European, and this sort of crap happens in Europe too. Especially England - we have thousands of really backward laws that everyone knows are backward but no one does anything about. It isn't just the US.

Thanks. This is just ONE incident that of course gets a lot of attention b/c of how ridiculous it is. It's not like we're sending teens off to prison on a daily basis for fooling around. It's the type of thing that you never realized existed until it comes up like this.
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With all the anti American stuff people are saying - I'm European, and this sort of crap happens in Europe too. Especially England - we have thousands of really backward laws that everyone knows are backward but no one does anything about. It isn't just the US.
It's a criminal offence to leave a fishing hole (in the ice) unguarded in Canada. How fitting, no?

It's also a criminal offence to "frighten the Queen."
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This is an age of consent case, and the girl was below that age. So the "consensual" in the article is legally incorrect. Perhaps they charged him as an adult on this.
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Perhaps the teen could work off his time as a soldier in Iraq. It'd be cheaper and we'd have one less "sodomite" on the continent.

(by the above defitinitions of sodomite, I guess I'm a member of the club)
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Gosh, that's extreme.
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The law is an ass.
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This is simply OUTRAGEOUS and must be fought!!!
What do you mean the Judge and Jury thought the sentence was wrong but couldn't do anything about it???
WHY THE FUCK NOT???
What the hell does a judge do???
This whole thing just sucks. They've doomed this poor guy before he's even 18...and for what???
Sorry folks but you're country just SUCKS!!!
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LET'S HELP THIS KID OUT...ALL OF US!!!
It only takes a few seconds.
www.wilsonappeal.com
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Points well noted, Harry Vest, but the judges and jury couldn't do anything about it because they don't create the laws, nor can they change them in the courtroom to suit their needs.
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What can be done in these cases according to american law? Can he appeal to a Federal Court?

I can´t imagine on what grounds though... ? Surely, SOMETHING could be done...??
I'm not a lawyer but I believe he could appeal all the way to the Supreme Court claiming the law is unconstitutional. Though the composition of the court has changed, they did throw out the Texas sodomy law a couple years ago.

And yeah, every country that is old (not old, like you had Romans settle your cities, but since the founding of your current Republic...so Germany for example is only just over 60) has this problem, the older the body of law the worse it gets. Voters and press reward legislators for passing laws, not repealing them, with the rare high profile exception. You'd think they could come up with a systematic fix - automatically review laws when they are x many years old or something.
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Despite being just 60 years old, we have stupid laws as well

Hoepfully he can appeal before a higher court, but it sounds like he is one of those cases where you can't do much because the time he was sentenced the old law still was in power
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In Singapore, there was a case a few years ago about this very same issue.

Apparently thanks to the legacy of British colonial law oral sex was still technically illegal in Singapore, and this bloke got charged for it.

The charges were dropped (or were clarified, I think) but he still got jail time though, for sex with a minor. Still, considering he was near 30 at the time I suppose he got what was coming to him.

Anyway there was a law review this year and a lot of the old colonial legacy kind of laws were scrapped so now it's OK to have oral sex (jeez, felt weird typing that). Unless you do it in public, of course.

Edit: Hang on! This is interesting reading about the case.
http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2004/yax-348.htm
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