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Old 06-27-2005, 03:28 PM   #16
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well, my morals of course
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no, I mean universal stuff. Dont kill people, dont steal, dont screw your neighbors spouse...
Stuff that makes the world better I guess.
If it was morals from some other religion that would be constructive I would say go for it.
Its not like we have to follow them anyway
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:29 PM   #17
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I dont see whats wrong about displaying something moral in public
But they aren't morals for everyone. Why would athiests or people of other religions have anything to do with keeping a Sabbath holy?
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The 10 Commandments seem to be a reasonable prescription for a moral life.

However the man in the White House is seemingly unaware of the Commandment stating "Thou shalt not kill."

Not "Thou shalt not kill except for oil." Not "Thou shalt not kill, except Arabs". Not "Thou shalt not kill, except in retaliation."

Just, "Thou shalt not kill".
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well, my morals of course
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no, I mean universal stuff. Dont kill people, dont steal, dont screw your neighbors spouse...
Stuff that makes the world better I guess.
If it was morals from some other religion that would be constructive I would say go for it.
Its not like we have to follow them anyway


while i think that some of the commandments are fairly universally applicable (we might call them the "Duh! Commandments"), not all of them are. there are some that are distinctly Judeo-Christian, and i know several Hindus who agree with some Commandments, but not others, and this is their country as well, so why push them away?
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The 10 Commandments seem to be a reasonable prescription for a moral life.

However the man in the White House is seemingly unaware of the Commandment stating "Thou shalt not kill."

Not "Thou shalt not kill except for oil." Not "Thou shalt not kill, except Arabs". Not "Thou shalt not kill, except in retaliation."

Just, "Thou shalt not kill".
Can you just make a "Bush Sucks" thread already, so I don't have to read that in almost every thread in FYM?

Thanks in advance.

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How is it pushing someone away?

There are so many conclusions that the display is "offensive" or acts as a rejection of non-Jews or Christians. It seems as if the cry of victim should be shaping our society.
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Can you just make a "Bush Sucks" thread already, so I don't have to read that in almost every thread in FYM?
Don't encourage me.
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How is it pushing someone away?

There are so many conclusions that the display is "offensive" or acts as a rejection of non-Jews or Christians. It seems as if the cry of victim should be shaping our society.
Well if I was Muslim and being tried and the courtroom held the law of another religion, not even the law of the country, I would wonder how fair of a trial I'd be getting.
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How is it pushing someone away?

There are so many conclusions that the display is "offensive" or acts as a rejection of non-Jews or Christians. It seems as if the cry of victim should be shaping our society.


shouldn't the rights of the minority be the most fervently protected?

isn't "I am the LORD thy GOD" clearly exclusive of non-Jews and Christians?
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Rights - yes
Emotional fortitude - no

And wouldn't the phrase "I am the LORD thy GOD" be meaningless to non-Jews and Christians? Just as Allah is a meaningless term to non-Muslims?
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The 10 Commandments seem to be a reasonable prescription for a moral life.

However the man in the White House is seemingly unaware of the Commandment stating "Thou shalt not kill."

Not "Thou shalt not kill except for oil." Not "Thou shalt not kill, except Arabs". Not "Thou shalt not kill, except in retaliation."

Just, "Thou shalt not kill".
Theres a difference between political leaders and every day citizens though.
Im not saying I like death because of war, but God did say that we are to respect our leaders and obey the laws
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Theres a difference between political leaders and every day citizens though.
Im not saying I like death because of war, but God did say that we are to respect our leaders and obey the laws
Wow. I'm pretty speechless at this point.



Honestly and truly, where did you read in the Bible that Jesus said that there was a difference between political leaders and every day citizens?

Are you truly suggesting that political leaders are in a class of their own?

Cos actually, that is not what Jesus taught, and it sure as hell is not a description of democracy. More of a description of a feudal society, actually.
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Did I say something particularly offensive?
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Did I say something particularly offensive?
Offensive? No. Just bizarre.
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I was referring to romans 14-1

1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same;
4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience' sake.
6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing.
7 Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.
8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

I didnt make it up, I was just making a biblical reference
On a side note, Im not sure if I agree with this completely....
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