1. I dont know how you come to call this a spin off thread. Spin off from? The last aftermath coffee thread?
2. Elder is a category you invented all by yourself. I am not an elder here. A few decorations and FYM medals aside, I´m just a long-time poster like anyone else who registered back in 2001 and is still around. Besides, the word elder is derived from ancient, sometimes tribal societies that are very different from an internet community. From an ethnologist´s view, your careless use of this term is questionable.