Zooropa or Pop - Page 2

pgv · 07-27-2006, 03:42 PM

I love them both too much to choose
(but at the moment, as ive listened to it alot lately, zooropa)

waynetravis · 07-27-2006, 03:53 PM

my vote goes to Zooropa.

i've got every song from Zooropa and only 4 songs from Pop on my ipod.
might make it 5 songs though, i need to add Gone

Bono's Betty · 07-27-2006, 04:00 PM

Zooropa all the way!!!!

I do like Pop, just not as much.

XHendrix24 · 07-27-2006, 04:02 PM

I've got to go with Zooropa by a fair margin.

In my eyes, Zooropa has some of my favorite U2 songs (Zooropa, Lemon, Stay), and every other track on it is either great or good (Babyface and Dirty Day being merely "good"). Plus, it's completely different from anything else in the U2 catalogue, it was their most experimental album overall, and it's extremely cohesive - it almost works as somewhat of a concept album. It's like some kind of crazy, spacey dream. It's amazing.

Pop is good. I don't see it as the masterpiece that some people see it as, but I really like some of the songs on it. Mofo and Last Night on Earth especially are really good. Please is also really good, but I can't help but feel that it was slighted production-wise, kind of like Dirty Day on Zooropa. It could have been done much better on the album and therefore doesn't jump out at you as much as it should when you listen to it. I actually really like most of the songs on Pop now that I think about it. It's just that string of three towards the end that kill it for me - that is, Miami -> The Playboy Mansion -> If You Wear That Velvet Dress. I cannot get into any of these songs and I find them to be three of the worst songs in U2's catalogue. They're boring and have extremely questionable lyrics (except Velvet Dress, which I will concede has pretty good lyrical moments). I actually like Velvet Dress a little bit on its own, but it's still kind of boring, and since it's placed after two other boring songs on the album, it really doesn't work for me at all. I appreciate what U2 was trying to do here, but I don't think they quite pulled it off. If they had more time to produce the album and work on the songs a bit more, I feel that I might like it a bit more, but as it stands now it's merely a decent U2 album to me.

So yes. Zooropa owns this one for me.

Irishteen · 07-27-2006, 04:03 PM

Zooropa
Great songs:
Stay
Somedays are better than others
Dirty Day
The Wanderer
Lemon
Good Songs:
Babyface
Numb
The First Time
Alright songs:
Zooropa
bad songs:
Daddy's gonna pay for your crashed car

Average: 3.2

Pop
Great songs:
If God will send his angels
Mofo
Wake Up Dead Man
Last Night on Earth
Please
Good songs:
Discotheque
Do you feel loved
Staring at the sun
Gone
Alright songs:
The Playboy mansion
Bad songs:
Velvet Dress
Maimi

Average: 3

Zooropa wins

U2DMfan · 07-27-2006, 04:05 PM

Zooropa, easily

benito · 07-27-2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BANZAI
By the way, I have a question for POP lovers. Could anyone please give me some good reasons for lovin' it, because after 9 whole years I'm still not a fan of the album. IMO it has too many mediocre songs, a few bad songs (Miami and Playboy Mansion) and no classics.

This is a REAL question, because I really wanna enjoy this album more than the way I do now.

I really like both albums but I would place Pop ahead of Zooropa. I have a loving for Pop and I can't really explain why. In many respects it seems almost un-U2 (when compared to previous and post albums) yet there are destinctive U2 sounds that are throughout the album.

I really appreciate how all the songs come alive when performed in concert. Mofo, Gone, Please and Staring at the Sun, become incredible when heard live. The energy and passion is amazing.

Lancemc · 07-27-2006, 04:40 PM

Zooropa by far. Zooropa is more inspired. Zooropa is more beautiful. Zooropa is more relevant. Zooropa is more moving. And most importantly Zooropa wasn't rushed out the door with a questionable production.

However, certain POP songs really take on a whole new life performed live. Please, Last Night On Earth, and Discotheque exponentially improve in a live setting.

Screwtape2 · 07-27-2006, 04:55 PM

Zooropa, but it's close.

I think both albums have a tendency to have a stretch of so-so material. For me it comes down to the fact that the songs on Zooropa are better than Pop.

1. Zooropa- Masterpeice
2. Babyface- A beautiful, seductive song. Shares the theme of Velvet Dress but presents it so much better.
3. Numb- This song is inventive if anything.
4. Lemon- I think this is the second masterpeice on this album.
5. Stay- I agree with Bono, that this is the best U2 song. Third Masterpeice.
6. Crashed Car- I love this song, it just sounds so different.
7. Some Days- The album's weak link. I love the music though.
8. The First Time- Good song, I guess.
9. Dirty Day- Works so well with The Wanderer. Love this song.
10. The Wanderer- It has kind of grown on me.

Zoots · 07-27-2006, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Screwtape2
2. Babyface- A beautiful, seductive song. Shares the theme of Velvet Dress but presents it so much better.

I agree with a fair amount of what you said but not with that statement. In my opinion, Velvet Dress is one of the most gorgeous songs they've ever done! Edge's guitar in that song is almost orgasmic.

bmgwd89 · 07-27-2006, 05:02 PM

I'd have to go with Pop. For me Zooropa, while also a great album, has more songs that aren't great, and also has less material overall.

Justin24 · 07-27-2006, 05:13 PM

Zooropa 1.5

Pop 1

Winner zooropa (just because it is slightly better than that Techno mess)

bsp77 · 07-27-2006, 05:16 PM

I have to go with Zooropa, which is unbelievably brilliant. BTW, Pop is not techno, just some influence.

1stepcloser · 07-27-2006, 05:17 PM

Zooropa definitely for me. It seems like an inspired creation when one listens to it. It doesn't have a bad song on it and some of the songs are exceptional. The title track for example and Lemon are masterpieces.

Pop isn't bad itself but you can tell it's unfinished despite what all the pop-till-i-die army may say. Plus the new mix of Gone is better than the original.

And Zooropa had better video's too

XHendrix24 · 07-27-2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1stepcloser
And Zooropa had better video's too

I forgot about this point. The videos for the Zooropa singles were arguably the best U2 have ever done. Numb, Lemon, Stay. All fantastic videos.

LemonMelon · 07-27-2006, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WalkOnTheEdge
Do we really need a new one every day?

Yes.

Zooropa > Pop by just a little bit. Both are brilliant.

macfesto · 07-27-2006, 08:33 PM

yes.

Nisse · 07-27-2006, 08:41 PM

Pop

Quote:

Originally posted by BANZAI
By the way, I have a question for POP lovers. Could anyone please give me some good reasons for lovin' it, because after 9 whole years I'm still not a fan of the album. IMO it has too many mediocre songs, a few bad songs (Miami and Playboy Mansion) and no classics.

This is a REAL question, because I really wanna enjoy this album more than the way I do now.

I could say the same about Zooropa.

jonnytakeawalk · 07-27-2006, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nisse
I could say the same about Zooropa.

No you couldn't.

Zooropa has at least three absolute classics, Zooropa, lemon and stay. Only one mediocre song- babyface, and absolutely no bad songs. Pop on the other hand

Earnie Shavers · 07-27-2006, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Justin24
Winner zooropa (just because it is slightly better than that Techno mess)

Name two techno songs from Pop. I'll give you Mofo, depending on your definition of 'techno', but name one other.

07-27-2006, 03:42 PM	#21
pgv ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12,979 Local Time: 07:02 PM	I love them both too much to choose (but at the moment, as ive listened to it alot lately, zooropa) __________________

07-27-2006, 03:53 PM	#22
waynetravis Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hull, UK Posts: 36,231 Local Time: 06:02 PM	my vote goes to Zooropa. i've got every song from Zooropa and only 4 songs from Pop on my ipod. might make it 5 songs though, i need to add Gone __________________

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07-27-2006, 04:00 PM	#23
Bono's Betty Refugee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,185 Local Time: 12:02 PM	Zooropa all the way!!!! I do like Pop, just not as much.

07-27-2006, 04:02 PM	#24
XHendrix24 Refugee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,496 Local Time: 01:02 PM	I've got to go with Zooropa by a fair margin. In my eyes, Zooropa has some of my favorite U2 songs (Zooropa, Lemon, Stay), and every other track on it is either great or good (Babyface and Dirty Day being merely "good"). Plus, it's completely different from anything else in the U2 catalogue, it was their most experimental album overall, and it's extremely cohesive - it almost works as somewhat of a concept album. It's like some kind of crazy, spacey dream. It's amazing. Pop is good. I don't see it as the masterpiece that some people see it as, but I really like some of the songs on it. Mofo and Last Night on Earth especially are really good. Please is also really good, but I can't help but feel that it was slighted production-wise, kind of like Dirty Day on Zooropa. It could have been done much better on the album and therefore doesn't jump out at you as much as it should when you listen to it. I actually really like most of the songs on Pop now that I think about it. It's just that string of three towards the end that kill it for me - that is, Miami -> The Playboy Mansion -> If You Wear That Velvet Dress. I cannot get into any of these songs and I find them to be three of the worst songs in U2's catalogue. They're boring and have extremely questionable lyrics (except Velvet Dress, which I will concede has pretty good lyrical moments). I actually like Velvet Dress a little bit on its own, but it's still kind of boring, and since it's placed after two other boring songs on the album, it really doesn't work for me at all. I appreciate what U2 was trying to do here, but I don't think they quite pulled it off. If they had more time to produce the album and work on the songs a bit more, I feel that I might like it a bit more, but as it stands now it's merely a decent U2 album to me. So yes. Zooropa owns this one for me.

07-27-2006, 04:03 PM	#25
Irishteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 29,624 Local Time: 07:02 PM	Zooropa Great songs: Stay Somedays are better than others Dirty Day The Wanderer Lemon Good Songs: Babyface Numb The First Time Alright songs: Zooropa bad songs: Daddy's gonna pay for your crashed car Average: 3.2 Pop Great songs: If God will send his angels Mofo Wake Up Dead Man Last Night on Earth Please Good songs: Discotheque Do you feel loved Staring at the sun Gone Alright songs: The Playboy mansion Bad songs: Velvet Dress Maimi Average: 3 Zooropa wins

07-27-2006, 04:05 PM	#26
U2DMfan Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: It's Inside A Black Hole Posts: 6,637 Local Time: 12:02 PM	Zooropa, easily

07-27-2006, 04:40 PM	#28
Lancemc Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ba Sing Se Posts: 17,685 Local Time: 02:02 PM	Zooropa by far. Zooropa is more inspired. Zooropa is more beautiful. Zooropa is more relevant. Zooropa is more moving. And most importantly Zooropa wasn't rushed out the door with a questionable production. However, certain POP songs really take on a whole new life performed live. Please, Last Night On Earth, and Discotheque exponentially improve in a live setting.

07-27-2006, 04:55 PM	#29
Screwtape2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska “With Screwtape on Kettle Drum and Wormwood on Harpsichord!” Posts: 18,353 Local Time: 01:02 PM	Zooropa, but it's close. I think both albums have a tendency to have a stretch of so-so material. For me it comes down to the fact that the songs on Zooropa are better than Pop. 1. Zooropa- Masterpeice 2. Babyface- A beautiful, seductive song. Shares the theme of Velvet Dress but presents it so much better. 3. Numb- This song is inventive if anything. 4. Lemon- I think this is the second masterpeice on this album. 5. Stay- I agree with Bono, that this is the best U2 song. Third Masterpeice. 6. Crashed Car- I love this song, it just sounds so different. 7. Some Days- The album's weak link. I love the music though. 8. The First Time- Good song, I guess. 9. Dirty Day- Works so well with The Wanderer. Love this song. 10. The Wanderer- It has kind of grown on me.

07-27-2006, 05:02 PM	#31
bmgwd89 The Fly Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 50 Local Time: 01:02 PM	I'd have to go with Pop. For me Zooropa, while also a great album, has more songs that aren't great, and also has less material overall.

07-27-2006, 05:13 PM	#32
Justin24 Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Mateo Posts: 6,716 Local Time: 11:02 AM	Zooropa 1.5 Pop 1 Winner zooropa (just because it is slightly better than that Techno mess)

07-27-2006, 05:16 PM	#33
bsp77 Refugee Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,956 Local Time: 12:02 PM	I have to go with Zooropa, which is unbelievably brilliant. BTW, Pop is not techno, just some influence.

07-27-2006, 05:17 PM	#34
1stepcloser Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 3,764 Local Time: 07:02 PM	Zooropa definitely for me. It seems like an inspired creation when one listens to it. It doesn't have a bad song on it and some of the songs are exceptional. The title track for example and Lemon are masterpieces. Pop isn't bad itself but you can tell it's unfinished despite what all the pop-till-i-die army may say. Plus the new mix of Gone is better than the original. And Zooropa had better video's too

07-27-2006, 08:33 PM	#37
macfesto War Child Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Paris Posts: 532 Local Time: 02:02 PM	yes.