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Old 08-22-2005, 04:37 PM   #76
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I might think that way, too, if I though that they got money from the deal. But the thing is, here's what a lot of people don't know: U2 didn't make a dime off the iPod deal. All they got out of it, besides the advertising, was an agreement to let Edge work with the creative minds at Apple to experiment with electronics, computers, and music, etc. That was the whole point of the second half of The Boss' speech at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame---and I kind of think he put it in there to get that word out. Thinking about the iPod issue with this knowledge, I see the decision less as a business act and more as a creative one.
That is a fair point, but it still doesn't address the issue raised by Chizip and Bonoshades that to get certain tracks, you had to fork out the full 150 rather than download them on a track by track basis.
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That is a fair point, but it still doesn't address the issue raised by Chizip and Bonoshades that to get certain tracks, you had to fork out the full 150 rather than download them on a track by track basis.
Yeah, I agree. The ad wasn't a problem, but the iTunes collection was a rip-off. And U2 certainly profitted from it.

I'm glad that I downloaded the rare and unreleased tunes, becasue truth be told they're not worth the 150 bucks. I don't even know if it was worth the time it took to find them for free.
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It just occurred to me that even though U2 undoubtedly is profiting monetarily from the digital box set, Apple and Interscope might be making a whole lot more. I have no idea how much Apple and the record labels get from tracks downloaded from iTunes compared to the artists. I do know that artists actually recoup very little from CD sales compared to what the label gets.
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I don't even know if it was worth the time it took to find them for free.
Thanks for saving me the hassle of going looking for them.
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Thanks for saving me the hassle of going looking for them.
Well, maybe I shouldn't have said that...nothing on it is essential, but some of the stuff might be worth having if you're U2 completist.......all that you need to know about the rare & unreleased album is that both Levitate and Smile are worth downloading, and that the alternate versions of the HTDAAB are interesting but inferior to the finished versions. Jesus Christ is OK too if you like the country influenced rattle and Hum songs, but I know lots of people don't.
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Jesus Christ is OK too if you like the country influenced rattle and Hum songs, but I know lots of people don't.
The Woody Guthrie tribute album this song originally appeared on is available through iTunes so you can download Jesus Christ for 99 cents if you want. That's what I did! I seem to remember it being slightly longer or shorter than the version offered through the digital box set, but I believe it is essentially the same tune.
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Ok but why are U2 doing this NOW? Why haven't they been allying their name with other products in the past? To me it indicates a desperation to find a marketing tool for them now.

This isn't new to U2. Larry Mullen did a print ad for Harley Davidson back in 87 or 88. I didn't see anything wrong with that, and I don't see anything wrong with the Ipod ad. For anyone with the Flanigan book, reread it. There's a part where they were talking about how in the future Music would be Downloaded straight to the enduser, that Music stores would be obsolete. They were excited about this and wanted to be part of it. They were one of the first acts to make sure that they secured separate royalty rates for downloads.

U2 have always been interested in the future, and they've professed excitement about things like the IPOD years before...When they said last year that they really did like the Ipod they weren't just blowing smoke, it's true. The proof is in that book. It's not like they're selling Coke, while privately hating the stuff and stocking crates of Pepsi(Like Michael Jackson-BTW ShaunVox, aren't you a big Michael Jackson fan?)
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That is a fair point, but it still doesn't address the issue raised by Chizip and Bonoshades that to get certain tracks, you had to fork out the full 150 rather than download them on a track by track basis.
That is a fair point. But it's also fair to point out that I've downloaded all of those tracks and not paid a cent.
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This might be a stupid question but where on the net can I watch the commercial?
When they used to show it on tv,I never paid much attention....I wasn't really a fan then.
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That is a fair point. But it's also fair to point out that I've downloaded all of those tracks and not paid a cent.
True, but maybe you would have bought them if you could have bought just those tracks, and not the whole box set. Another enticement to buy would have been if those tracks were CD quality sound., but they're not, so what are they really worth anyways? The answer is nothing, and that's why I downloaded them for free too. LOL!!
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starvin---- where'd you get them? I have a few of them, but wouldn't mind completing the set.
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I downloaded them WinMX, but it took FOREVER. They're not that easy to find. Which ones do you need?
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drop me a line at utooguyATgmailDOTcom. I'll send you a list of what I've got---we can trade some, if you'd like.
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This might be a stupid question but where on the net can I watch the commercial?
When they used to show it on tv,I never paid much attention....I wasn't really a fan then.



HELLO!!!
I can't save or download anything from the apple/itunes website on the computer I use,which is a library computer,I tried a number of times already,I thought there would be another site where I could watch it.
If there is,you guys aren't telling me.
For some reason you are ignoring me.
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Yeah, I agree. The ad wasn't a problem, but the iTunes collection was a rip-off. And U2 certainly profitted from it.

I'm glad that I downloaded the rare and unreleased tunes, becasue truth be told they're not worth the 150 bucks. I don't even know if it was worth the time it took to find them for free.
Oh c'mon!

iTunes charges $1/song. With the U2 package, you received almost 450 songs for $150 - or just $100 if you had the coupon code. That works out to 22 cents a song!

Sorry that you feel so ripped off for paying 22 cents a song...
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