Its no secret that there are a lot of fans who, after adoring U2 for 20 years due to their sparkle and diversity, deeply resent ATYCLB as being a record which sucks upto MTV + VH1 etc. Just wondering - what do the people who dislike ATYCLB because of its commercialism think of Electrical Storm?
What do ATYCLB-haters think of E-Storm
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I dont know if it relates to the thread or not.I am just coming back from a U2 Tribute Band show (www.austu2show.com).
They played Electrical Storm like the single version and I tell you what, this could be the next great U2 song.It just sounded outstanding and fitted comfortabaly with classics like Until the End of the World and Beautiful Day etc.So what I am trying to say is, dont judge this song till you hear it live.
Check out this band's web site, I think they have their cover on it.
ps: People near Melbourne, you must see this band.Not only they sound amazingly close to U2, but they even cover obsecure songs like Silver and Gold etc.Just amazing, what a feeling
They played Electrical Storm like the single version and I tell you what, this could be the next great U2 song.It just sounded outstanding and fitted comfortabaly with classics like Until the End of the World and Beautiful Day etc.So what I am trying to say is, dont judge this song till you hear it live.
Check out this band's web site, I think they have their cover on it.
ps: People near Melbourne, you must see this band.Not only they sound amazingly close to U2, but they even cover obsecure songs like Silver and Gold etc.Just amazing, what a feeling
TheDaddy
The Fly
Good Topic. I was going to enter something similar actually. I'm still undecided about ATYCLB. Sometimes it sounds like classic JT style U2 other times it does sound too poppy while the Joshua Tree had a darker, more rock sound to it.
Electrical Storm is brilliant. The first time I heard it I said yes. I hope this is the way they go on their next album. It is very Joshua Tree in style as it has a stroke of darkness to it. Musically it's also looser than ATYCLB and less poppy in structure. The keyboard sounds are also more contemporary too. I certainly hope this is the way they go on their next album - a JT sound, song based like ATYCLB but looser with a bit of experimentation. Definitely Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno should be dropped. Sometimes when a band works with the same producers they churn out the same old stuff. I certainly think William Orbit should be involved.
Electrical Storm is brilliant. The first time I heard it I said yes. I hope this is the way they go on their next album. It is very Joshua Tree in style as it has a stroke of darkness to it. Musically it's also looser than ATYCLB and less poppy in structure. The keyboard sounds are also more contemporary too. I certainly hope this is the way they go on their next album - a JT sound, song based like ATYCLB but looser with a bit of experimentation. Definitely Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno should be dropped. Sometimes when a band works with the same producers they churn out the same old stuff. I certainly think William Orbit should be involved.
pinkfloyd
War Child
i like Electric Storm , like a single song , you know , same can be related to BD , Walk On , Kite , Stuck
, as for ATYCLB , i don't listen to it anymore , it's too dull and boring , the record will be forgotten , except Media Hype and " Pro -U2 Fans "
, as for ATYCLB , i don't listen to it anymore , it's too dull and boring , the record will be forgotten , except Media Hype and " Pro -U2 Fans "
I don't understand how anybody could say ATYCLB sucked up to MTV. It fit in naturally with VH-1, but MTV? No way! At the time of its release, MTV was cluttered with virtually nothing but teen pop, rap and raplike metal. It was very different, and it did not fit in well at all. The songs did not do well on MTV, and I think U2 knew from the start MTV was a lost cause, even though they appeared there. VH-1 is where the songs and videos really took off and had a lot to do with its success but I don't think it was intentional.
I also totally disagree ATYCLB will be ' forgotten.' It's already ranked up highly with JT and AB and with 9/11 took on greater significance.This is an album destined to be a classic. If any U2 album is 'forgotten' it will most certainly not be this one!!
I also totally disagree ATYCLB will be ' forgotten.' It's already ranked up highly with JT and AB and with 9/11 took on greater significance.This is an album destined to be a classic. If any U2 album is 'forgotten' it will most certainly not be this one!!
pinkfloyd
War Child
well "pro-U2fanatic " , i'll explain it to you , first of all , MTV = VH1 , the difference is that teenagers grew up , and became working ants , housewives , doctors etc etc .. and this is mtv for them , countless programs BTM about artists who really were shit then and shit now but who cares , nobody , that's right hype hype , 9/11 hype if u want it that way ,
martha
Blue Crack Supplier
NShaik said:
I don't resent ATYCLB; it just doesn't rock. And neither does ES.
gherman
New Yorker
I've got 10 words for those of you who think ATYCLB sucks or will be forgoten
FU#K YOU, FU%K YOU, FU@K YOU, FU&K YOU... FU$K YOU!!!!
U2 couldn't have put out a better album at a better time sh#t for brains!!!
Hallelujah Here She Comes
Rock n' Roll Doggie
pinkfloyd said:
, as for ATYCLB , i don't listen to it anymore , it's too dull and boring , the record will be forgotten , except Media Hype and " Pro -U2 Fans "
Just because YOU find ATYCLB dull and boring doesn't mean it will be forgotten. And just because I like it doesn't mean that it will be remembered. Sorry, but nobody here can really say what will and won't be remembered, unless you have some sort of psychic powers the rest of us don't know about. And what the hell is a "pro-U2 fan"? Are there a lot of anti-U2 fans???
Sorry I can't answer the original topic, but I really liked ATYCLB.
GypsyHeartgirl
POP for GIRLS
NShaik said:
I know no one who fits this description. As a matter of fact, most of the 20 year fans loved ATYCLB! Okay so Martha doesn't think it rocks but most of them, and everyone I know in real life! If there was any album a lot of the longtime fans 'resented' it was fucking Pop, not ATYCLB!! The only ones I know who resent ATYCLB are a handful of people here on this forum who became fans only in the 90's, mostly just at Pop, and 'resent' ATYCLB because it was a departure from Pop, and a successful one at that! No, it wasn't a 'sell out' or 'commercial' it was GOOD!!
I don't think they 'sucked up' to anyone, especially not MTV which now caters to teenyboppers who won't like U2 just for being 'old.' I don't even see it as 'commerical.' It's a great album, millions enjoyed it and love it, it helped their career, and they are happy, so you should be happy with that as a U2 fan!
GypsyHeartgirl
POP for GIRLS
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gherman said:
I've got 10 words for those of you who think ATYCLB sucks or will be forgoten
FU#K YOU, FU%K YOU, FU@K YOU, FU&K YOU... FU$K YOU!!!!
U2 couldn't have put out a better album at a better time sh#t for brains!!!
Hey now...
No need to be like that.
pinkfloyd
War Child
gherman , same to u
Pro - U2 fans - people who like U2 1977-2002 , everything by U2 is a GREATest ( single , Video , Album , soundtrack ) for them , some of them apears to be stuck in time ( many of them are in 198o's ) , pics , evrything , the meaning of thier lives is U2 and U2 only ,
ATYCLB is an album exactly for people over 35 ,U2 fans from the 80's , it's done for that cause , for people to buy it , U2 congrats , this is called : SOLD OUT .
Pro - U2 fans - people who like U2 1977-2002 , everything by U2 is a GREATest ( single , Video , Album , soundtrack ) for them , some of them apears to be stuck in time ( many of them are in 198o's ) , pics , evrything , the meaning of thier lives is U2 and U2 only ,
ATYCLB is an album exactly for people over 35 ,U2 fans from the 80's , it's done for that cause , for people to buy it , U2 congrats , this is called : SOLD OUT .
pinkfloyd said:
My wife and I both love ATYCLB. We've both been huge fans since Achtung Baby and we're both 26. Also we don't like everything from U2, besides 2 or 3 good songs, we both hate POP.
So exactly where to we fit into this equation of yours pinkfloyd?
wertsie
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
hmmm...I am not anti-atyclb but I'll respond to this anyway...
Anyway, my thoughts...Do some people really resent ATYCLB? I have heard that some fans that came onto the scene during the POP era were disappointed by it...I can sort of understand, being someone who became a fan during that era...except mostly not really.
U2 has always been about change. I don't think I would have wanted them to make another POP. It would've felt so, "Been there, done that" you know? And I don't agree with all the talk about ATYCLB being like the stuff they did in the 80s...I think ATYCLB was completely fresh and new...its own entity, not revisiting any previous era.
That being said, I LOVE ES and I do think that it rocks...Maybe not in the same way that a lot of the tunes on AB rock, but it rocks!
Anyway, my thoughts...Do some people really resent ATYCLB? I have heard that some fans that came onto the scene during the POP era were disappointed by it...I can sort of understand, being someone who became a fan during that era...except mostly not really.
U2 has always been about change. I don't think I would have wanted them to make another POP. It would've felt so, "Been there, done that" you know? And I don't agree with all the talk about ATYCLB being like the stuff they did in the 80s...I think ATYCLB was completely fresh and new...its own entity, not revisiting any previous era.That being said, I LOVE ES and I do think that it rocks...Maybe not in the same way that a lot of the tunes on AB rock, but it rocks!
Saracene
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pinkfloyd said:
I do like U2 1977-2002, but I'm 22 and ATYCLB is the first U2 album I've bought and loved, so where exactly do I fit into your rationale?
I love it how apparently ATYCLB manages to suck up both to the teeny-boppers (according to some) AND adult-contemporary over-35 crowd (according to the others). And if it sucks up to MTV and VH1, well, U2 videos have been played on MTV for ages, so apparently they've been sucking up to it for ages, too.
And IMO many people who accuse some U2 fans of being "stuck in the 80s" are often just as much stuck in the 90s. It's the same sort of nostalgia, only of a different timeframe, except some 90s fans feel like they're on a higher horse for some reason.
wertsie
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
Bonofire said:
EXACTLY! I really don't understand how anyone who is a member of this forum can actually COMPLAIN about a U2 album's success! Where is the rationale? I don't get it. I'm not stuck in the 80s. I'm not stuck in the 90s. I'm stuck in all things U2, and, yes, stuck in a moment...
Hallelujah Here She Comes
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Saracene said:
Yeah, same here. I'm not sure I understand how liking most everything U2's released is a negative thing. Cause most everything they've released is excellent. You're entitled not to agree, but please assume that there's something wrong with people who do.
pr0digy
The Fly
Well it's been about 1.5 years since I bought ATYCLB, and I can honestly say that I haven't sat and listened to it anymore than about 3 times.
I think it's because there was nothing compelling about it that made me want to listen to it again. So that doesn't mean that it's a "bad" record, but I don't think it had "what other U2 albums had" to make me come back and listen to it, if you know what I mean.
I think it's because there was nothing compelling about it that made me want to listen to it again. So that doesn't mean that it's a "bad" record, but I don't think it had "what other U2 albums had" to make me come back and listen to it, if you know what I mean.
Bono's shades
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I wouldn't call myself an ATYCLB hater, although I think it's a bit overrated. It's a nice album with some lovely moments, and the songs are better than what you normally hear on radio stations or VH1, but it doesn't thrill me the way JT, AB, UF or War do. That being said, I absolutely love Electrical Storm. It may not be a hard-rocking song, which is kind of what I was hoping for, but there is just something magical about it. I can't get it out of my head and I don't want to! I guess I like it so much because it is darker and more atmospheric and less "poppy" than the ATYCLB songs. I'm not sure if U2 is signalling a change in direction with ES or not, but if they are I'm all for it.
I think the problem with ATYCLB is that U2 broke age old taboo with this album.They went all the way to promote the album to all possible demographic.But some people who only like one type of music, the so called rock and hard rock or whatever couldnt digest this fact.They felt something which is exclusive to them was being taken away by U2. I dont see any problems with this.Rock bands always promoted their album, this is where touring became so big cause initially it was just a promotion.Now U2 is taking it to a territory which was previously untouched.I dont know why its a crime to play on MTV?If Springsteen or REM gets song on MTV then I see MTV improving its quality rather the artist losing their's.
Secondly, I dont think that ATYCLB is dull and boring.Songs like Beautiful Day, When I Look At the World and In A Little While are as experimental as any other U2's experimental song.They just sound melodic and cohesive, I dont see that being be a problem.Stuck In a Moment is an outright pop song and what a wonderful pop song it is. I dont know what is more important a good song or a good rock song. I think we need to forget this narrow minded loyalty to a genre and start appreciating good music irrespective of the type.Atleast this is what I have learned from U2
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Secondly, I dont think that ATYCLB is dull and boring.Songs like Beautiful Day, When I Look At the World and In A Little While are as experimental as any other U2's experimental song.They just sound melodic and cohesive, I dont see that being be a problem.Stuck In a Moment is an outright pop song and what a wonderful pop song it is. I dont know what is more important a good song or a good rock song. I think we need to forget this narrow minded loyalty to a genre and start appreciating good music irrespective of the type.Atleast this is what I have learned from U2
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Saracene
Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS
Bono's shades said:
I'm with you on Electrical Storm. For me, it sort of evokes this mysterious, tense, humid atmosphere just before the storm, when you can almost smell the electricity in the air. With the possible exception of New York, ATYCLB songs somewhat lack that mystery, and I can totally see how some people wouldn't be hooked because it's a bit too much of a meat-and-potatoes record coming from U2.
martha
Blue Crack Supplier
gherman said:
I've got 10 words for those of you who think ATYCLB sucks or will be forgoten
FU#K YOU, FU%K YOU, FU@K YOU, FU&K YOU... FU$K YOU!!!!
U2 couldn't have put out a better album at a better time sh#t for brains!!!
You wimp. It's spelled FUCK and shit. If you're going to swear at me, swear at me.
And to those who think only recent fans didn't care for ATYCLB; I don't like it all that much, and the cover of my copy of Boy that I bought new in 1980 is falling apart because I've played so much in the past 22 years. I don't have to like every single thing the band outs out. I can still be a huge fan and be disappointed in the new single.
lady lemonade
Acrobat
Don't like ATYCLB much (must have listened to it twice in the past year) but I love ES, it's got a sense of mystery and danger that I find was lacking on ATYCLB. The sound is more rich, full and intricate and the vocals are stunning; it sounds exciting and fresh, love it.
Now if only Bono had gotten rid of the "heavy as a truck line" I could have been perfectly happy. Here's hoping that it really is "heavy as a drug"
Now if only Bono had gotten rid of the "heavy as a truck line" I could have been perfectly happy. Here's hoping that it really is "heavy as a drug"
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walkon11
War Child
ishkash said:
I agree completely...what people fail to realize, is that even though U2 is a rock band, they are just as much a pop band as well...ATYCLB has great TUNES...great SONGS...it doesn't all need to be "rockin'" to catch my attention, or to get me to listen to it a million times. That being said, I do see how some people may think it's not what they expected, and I totally understand...people have their own musical tastes, and that's cool too. I just personally think that people have their own agenda and idea of what U2 is, and to do that is dangerous for this band, considering they've changed their own style and boundries (sic?) a number of times. Whether it's dance-oriented, rock-influenced, or straight pop music (no pun intended) I think what they've done (and continue to do) with their music at all stages is fresh, intense, and wonderful.
Re: Re: What do ATYCLB-haters think of E-Storm
I don't think ATYCLB is a bad album, its just that whenever its mentioned in this forum, there's always someone who says that it is U2-lite, or Poppy bollocks or whatever. What I said wasn't my viewpoint.
My personal opinion of ATYCLB - it wasn't what I wanted from U2, but I was happy with it. Its a nice, pretty album, kind of like a hug. Personally I didn't want a hug from U2, I wanted a kick in the face, because I think its more interesting, but I still enjoyed ATYCLB, and it has some tunes which I think will become classics, allthough I do think that it lacks personality.
I think half the problem when U2 release anything new is that everyone seems to compare it to comething they've done before. You always seem to get people saying "Oh, it lacks the raw rock-and-roll energy of JT," or "It doesn't have the kind of in-your-face attitude of AB/Pop." Personally I think that when they release something new, they should be given a clean slate. Their new material should be judged in terms of what it is, not in terms of what U2 used to be.
Can I just point out that this thread was supposed to be about Electrical Storm rather than ATYCLB, so maybe we could get back to discussing that.
GypsyHeartgirl said:
I don't think ATYCLB is a bad album, its just that whenever its mentioned in this forum, there's always someone who says that it is U2-lite, or Poppy bollocks or whatever. What I said wasn't my viewpoint.
My personal opinion of ATYCLB - it wasn't what I wanted from U2, but I was happy with it. Its a nice, pretty album, kind of like a hug. Personally I didn't want a hug from U2, I wanted a kick in the face, because I think its more interesting, but I still enjoyed ATYCLB, and it has some tunes which I think will become classics, allthough I do think that it lacks personality.
I think half the problem when U2 release anything new is that everyone seems to compare it to comething they've done before. You always seem to get people saying "Oh, it lacks the raw rock-and-roll energy of JT," or "It doesn't have the kind of in-your-face attitude of AB/Pop." Personally I think that when they release something new, they should be given a clean slate. Their new material should be judged in terms of what it is, not in terms of what U2 used to be.
Can I just point out that this thread was supposed to be about Electrical Storm rather than ATYCLB, so maybe we could get back to discussing that.
Joshua_Tree_Hugger
Refugee
ATYCLB and ES both rock!
I don't know how U2 lovers can not like ATYCLB. It's in their top three best albums in my opinion (along with JT and AB, in no particular order).
And I cannot get enough of the Single (rockified) version of ES!
I don't know how U2 lovers can not like ATYCLB. It's in their top three best albums in my opinion (along with JT and AB, in no particular order).
And I cannot get enough of the Single (rockified) version of ES!
here we go again...
gherman said:
I've got 10 words for those of you who think ATYCLB sucks or will be forgoten
FU#K YOU, FU%K YOU, FU@K YOU, FU&K YOU... FU$K YOU!!!!
U2 couldn't have put out a better album at a better time sh#t for brains!!!
Salome
you are what you is
Re: Re: Re: What do ATYCLB-haters think of E-Storm
the "sonic soundscapes" are lacking or it doesn't 'rock' enough
or whatever
indeed,NShaik said:
the "sonic soundscapes" are lacking or it doesn't 'rock' enough
or whatever
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