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Old 06-12-2007, 08:05 AM   #1
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What's everyone's opinion on this album? I know if this was a thread about Pop then 99% of people would love it with perhaps just one person popping up to slag it off. But when it comes to War, things don't seem as clear cut. Lots of people love it but then there seems to be hordes of people who can't stand it.

Would you say War tends to be highly regarded among U2 fans or not?
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Personally, I rate War in about the middle of U2's albums. It has some really amazing stuff and the opening five tracks are as good as any other opening five combination that U2 has made, but it stutters a bit from there. As much as I find The Refugee to be fun and one of the best examples of Larry's drumming, it is not exactly a great song. Two Hearts Beat As One is out-of-place throwaway fluff. Red Light is arguably the worst U2 song ever. And while the studio version of 40 has a special charm, I can see why some people don't like it.

I think War is a bit over-rated in the general public by virtue of SBS and NYD, while amongst U2 fans, I think it gets about the right amount of attention.
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love War, the bass and drums on this album are freakin awesome, big fan of Surrender , red light isnt that bad is it ??? more War !!!!!!!!!
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War kicks ass. I honestly think a lot of the "don't like War" folks weren't alive when it came out.

And it's better than Pop...
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Ayeah! War... great drums!

Personally, I love War and I think it has a lot of great songs (only song I don't like at all is Red Light). I know only a few people who like this album as much as I do, but of course that doesn't mean that most of the fans don't like War.

P.S. I wasn't born when War came out, yet I still love it.
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It's frickin amazing.

I don't see why so many interferencers dislike it...most critics consider it among U2's top 3 or 4.
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It's a great album, but by U2 standards I would say it's average at best. I prefer Boy and October over War.
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It's a great album, but by U2 standards I would say it's average at best. I prefer Boy and October over War.
Boy & October are more consistently good IMO; there's nothing on either of them that's as weak as Red Light, or even Surrender...but I think War's best songs are better than those on October & Boy, if that makes any sense.
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Boy & October are more consistently good IMO; there's nothing on either of them that's as weak as Red Light, or even Surrender...but I think War's best songs are better than those on October & Boy, if that makes any sense.
Yes it does :-)
New Years Day is a 10 times better than I will Follow for example.
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I love War a lot, and Like A Song... is one of my fave U2 songs
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Mine too, love Larry's work on that one. Pity they only played it live the one time.
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Mine too, love Larry's work on that one. Pity they only played it live the one time.
I've read some unconfirmed stuff that they actually played it a second time, before the Dundee gig at an unbroadcast BBC Session in January 1983. I would dearly love to know if that is actually true.

Also, I praised War and I wasn't born until nearly four years after it came out.
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War isn't an album I listen to that much anymore. Sunday Bloody Sunday, New Year's Day, and 40 are all amazing songs live, but the album versions seem sort of tame now. I love Like A Song, and Two Hearts Beat As One is definitely in my top 10 U2 songs, but the album really starts to go downhill after Drowning Man.

The band made an amazing leap between War and UF. It's hard to believe the two albums came out within a year of each other. In fact, it's pretty incredible that U2's first four albums came out in four years. Wouldn't it be crazy if they could put together that many good songs in that amount of time now?
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it has Drowning Man so it gets a
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As much as I loathe a good chunk of UF, I must agree that I'm glad they released it. That album was a key stepping stone in their career. Without it, the true masterpiece Joshua Tree never would have been recorded.
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It is near the bottom of the albums in my opinion. There are only two albums that are below it in my mind. War has a lot of great songs but it doesn't hold up very well as a cohesive work.
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War has a lot of great songs but it doesn't hold up very well as a cohesive work.
Yeah, I'll agree with this. Like A Song --> Drowning Man --> The Refugee --> THBAO? Could that possibly have any less flow or cohesion?
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Yeah, I'll agree with this. Like A Song --> Drowning Man --> The Refugee --> THBAO? Could that possibly have any less flow or cohesion?
Or Red Light following THBAO and leading into Surrender.
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Many, many U2 albums suffer from lack of cohesion. Actually, very few have any texture at all. The only ones that really succeed in this regard are, to my ears:

Boy
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JT
Achtung
Zooropa

The other albums just sound like collections of songs to me.
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Many, many U2 albums suffer from lack of cohesion. Actually, very few have any texture at all. The only ones that really succeed in this regard are, to my ears:

Boy
UF
JT
Achtung
Zooropa

The other albums just sound like collections of songs to me.
Really?

Boy, Pop and ATYCLB all have cohesion and Zooropa probably has the least.
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