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Old 07-25-2005, 12:37 PM   #1
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Unforgettable Fire Documentary

I was watching it on the Slane DVD today and does anyone else think that it shows Adam in a bad light? Bono's "Lost in Space" comment and then the filming of Adam breezily going to have his photograph taken sort of conveyed the impression that Adam was unreliable. Also, they never really showed Adam discussing the album like the others did, implying that he never really got involved in the process, just played his parts then left.

At the start even Bono came across as a bit pretentious and moody. Though his discussion of Pride with Brian and Daniel did sort of redeem him even if they didn't seem to get what he was meaning straight away... then again I guess the cameras must make everyone pretty ill at ease and not relaxed.

Larry seemed the most relaxed and friendly out of all of them which is pretty ironic when you consider that he usually gets quite tense in interviews.

The Edge was the one who I thought came across best. Constantly trying out new ideas on his guitar, he never seemed to stop!

So thoughts anyone? I'm not trying to say that Adam is as I thought he was portrayed in the documentary, just that that was how it came across. It could just be me or maybe it was edited that way, I dunno. It's just the way they seem up on stage at Slane seems so happy, relaxed and professional. And then you watch the documentary and it just doesn't seem to reflect that. Is it just that they were younger then or what?
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Oh, the UF doc, something only a true U2 fan could find entertaining. Actually, I'm in the mind that Bono comes off worse than any of them. So pretentious...whether that's what he was really like, who knows, he's not like that now and is all the better for it....

Adam, actually, I found myself laughing when the rest of them started wondering "where's Adam". The rest of the band didn't seem to be angry with him, or anything. Maybe it's me, but I like that he was kind of the fun, wild one (or at least had that reputation) and sowed some wild oats in his early 20's (and beyond, surely). Generally, his lifestyle didn't get TOO out of hand, and when it began to cross the line he was responsible enough to reshape his priorities.

Now, if he had overdosed in a ditch somewhere in Brooklyn circa 1992 I would maybe look back at this documentary and think "oh that Adam, we should have seen it coming..."

And actually, I'm sure that being filmed like they were, for the first time in their careers, made them uneasy and awkward for the cameras, and of course what gets edited in/out may have not been in their hands. Hey, maybe Paul McG wanted to insinuate Adam's rock lifestyle to spice up U2's otherwise serious image (?)
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Now, if he had overdosed in a ditch somewhere in Brooklyn circa 1992 I would maybe look back at this documentary and think "oh that Adam, we should have seen it coming..."
...actually, I probably shouldn't be laughing at that!

Ps. I'm guessing from your avatar that you're a HSR fan.
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...actually, I probably shouldn't be laughing at that!

Ps. I'm guessing from your avatar that you're a HSR fan.
Guilty as charged
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when Larry, Brian Eno, and a few other people go out to see the eclipse that's easily the best part of the doc

"Look what you've done w/ ur bloody rock music, u've put out the sun"

and Eno pretending 2 b Quincy Jones
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I LOVE that documentary. As a teenager, I and my two best friends used to alternately watch that and Rattle And Hum over and over and over.... you get the picture!

I don't think Bono is pretentious, I think he is extremely uncomfortable.

I haven't watched it for a while, so I better take another look - oh the hardship!
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Yes...Bono seemed uncomfortable and very self-conscious. And what about those bleached stained blue jeans.

Also when he was doing the scat singing and came back into the control room, it has always seemed to me like Eno and Lanois were making fun of him. "A little more passion, Bono?" one of them says.
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...and it all seemed very Irish....when U2 seemed ultimately Irish, instead of international like they do now.
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...and it all seemed very Irish....when U2 seemed ultimately Irish, instead of international like they do now.
Yeah, listen to Bono's speaking voice then and now, definatley had a lot more Nort soid a' Dublin Oirish in it than it does now
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I particularly like it for Bono's singing bits. Look at his eyes, he's off with the fairies.
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Yes...Bono seemed uncomfortable and very self-conscious. And what about those bleached stained blue jeans.

Also when he was doing the scat singing and came back into the control room, it has always seemed to me like Eno and Lanois were making fun of him. "A little more passion, Bono?" one of them says.
It's just their sort of humour. Bono knows as well as they do that they're just taking the piss. I'm sure Bono does the same sort of thing to them.
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Re: Unforgettable Fire Documentary

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Larry seemed the most relaxed and friendly out of all of them which is pretty ironic when you consider that he usually gets quite tense in interviews.
I always thought Larry looked drunk through pretty much the whole documentry.
Especially in his interview:



I don't know what it is, just the way he's talking, I guess.
I know you're all saying, "But it's only one bottle?" But I remember larry saying he felt a little tipsy after 1 glass of champagne earlier this year.



And does anyone know why Edge has to spell "Lardence" out to Bono?
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I thought Adam came across as funny and generally nice, same with Larry. Bono and Edge came across as pretty pretentious at parts, but theyve outgrown it (sort of ). Plus they still had their humorous moments when they weren't being generally pretentious. Bono's Irish accent was gorgeous though. It's not like that anymore...
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The Edge: "I don't feel like we peaked necessarily."

Brian Eno: "Then would you like to go out there and peak then?"


Best line of the doc!
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"Look what you've done w/ ur bloody rock music, u've put out the sun"


Then Adam wanders in: It's gone all dark!
Everybody else then feels the need to introduce him like it's an American sitcom: It's Adam!

Probably the funniest part for me too.
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