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Old 07-30-2005, 06:14 AM   #76
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The EP EP.

1. "Elvis Ate America"
2. "Elvis Presley and America"
3. "Can't Help Falling In Love"
Best EP ever!
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You cannot mess with AB! God that'd be like messing with, erm... something unmessable. It just wouldn't work as well if you did.

But LWTSH is unbelievable, it rocks.
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It could at least flow better! I mean, EBTTRT --> One? So Cruel --> The Fly? Ultra Violet --> Acrobat?
You can not improve on perfection. The above comments I presume are from someone who just thinks HTDAAB is the greatest thing since Unforgettable Fire and SHitty of Blinding Lights is one of the greatest tracks ever! Or am I wrong?
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Flow better? Eh? The concept of AB is passing people by, I fear.
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Flow better? Eh? The concept of AB is passing people by, I fear.
There IS no concept. Some people need to stop reading things that aren't there into albums.
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You can not improve on perfection. The above comments I presume are from someone who just thinks HTDAAB is the greatest thing since Unforgettable Fire and SHitty of Blinding Lights is one of the greatest tracks ever! Or am I wrong?
Wrong: City Of Blinding Lights is not shitty.
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There IS no concept. Some people need to stop reading things that aren't there into albums.
Of course there is. The record is about a failed relationship...the flow of the record is the flow of the guy flowing thorugh the emotions of fake indifference to the realization of his real pain to his desperation to keep the relationship from ending to the transformation of his pain into cynisim and anger to the finale of basically denouncing love.
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There IS no concept. Some people need to stop reading things that aren't there into albums.
Of course there's a concept! I'm not reading into anything - it's all there on the album for everyone to hear.
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Of course there is. The record is about a failed relationship...the flow of the record is the flow of the guy flowing thorugh the emotions of fake indifference to the realization of his real pain to his desperation to keep the relationship from ending to the transformation of his pain into cynisim and anger to the finale of basically denouncing love.
No it isn't. That's simply not there, it's just some idea someone pulled out of their arse one day. I was rather surprised to say the least when someone first suggested to me there was a story running through Achtung, especially considering U2 don't make concept albums.

Songs like TTTYAATW and Acrobat, separated by just a single track, don't have squat to do with each other. Heck, Ultra Violet and Acrobat, consecutive tracks, couldn't be more different. And UTEOTW's from Judas to Jesus, so unless you're going to tell me the entire album is about some failed relationship Judas wanted to have with Jesus ( ), it doesn't fit in with the story.
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No it isn't. That's simply not there, it's just some idea someone pulled out of their arse one day. I was rather surprised to say the least when someone first suggested to me there was a story running through Achtung, especially considering U2 don't make concept albums.

Songs like TTTYAATW and Acrobat, separated by just a single track, don't have squat to do with each other. Heck, Ultra Violet and Acrobat, consecutive tracks, couldn't be more different. And UTEOTW's from Judas to Jesus, so unless you're going to tell me the entire album is about some failed relationship Judas wanted to have with Jesus ( ), it doesn't fit in with the story.
Haven't you ever heard of a song having multiple meanings? You know, back before U2000 when Bono wrote complex lyrics. Yes, UTEOTW is about Judas and Jesus in one meaning. In another, if you read the lyrics, it could EASILY be read as two former lovers running into each other at a party or something with one trying to rekindle said romance while the other wants none of it. Both meanings are valid.

As for TTTYAATW, UV, and Acrobat. TTTYAATW is the sound the guy in a bar becoming more and more cynical about love. UV is the sound of the guy sobered up, remembering moments in the past relationship, longing for his love to be back and 'light his way'. Acrobat is the sound of the guy realizing he his a hypocrite if he thinks all those cynical thoughts about love not exisiting or not being real but then turns around and wants his love back.

You think there's only three people that see this concept? You're in the minority.
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And unless you want to tell me there's only one aspect to every song, I think you've got it wrong. UTEOTW is about Judas and Jesus, but in the scheme of the album it's also about 2 lovers. The songs you mentioned aren't there 'to do' with each other - they fit into the flow of the album. Of course it doesn't explicitly say 'this is the story' and be obvious about it. The songs are there to stand alone. But they also have a bigger picture.

And well, maybe it was Bono's arse they pulled it out of, since he's said this before as well.
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I'll just argue the UTEOTW case for now: Bono's rather explicitly stated it's from Judas to Jesus, he wrote it with that intention in mind, and any other meanings have been created by other individuals.

So I reiterate, unless the album is about some failed relationship Judas wanted with Jesus (which is a laughable notion!), you have to get around the fact that UTEOTW doesn't have a thing to do with this 'story' you think is there.
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I agree with adding 'Wild Irish Rose', as this song should have DEFINITELY been on one of U2's albums !!
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Sorry, just have to get my mind off the arguements between the Achtungers and the one-man army here.
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I'll just argue the UTEOTW case for now: Bono's rather explicitly stated it's from Judas to Jesus, he wrote it with that intention in mind, and any other meanings have been created by other individuals.

So I reiterate, unless the album is about some failed relationship Judas wanted with Jesus (which is a laughable notion!), you have to get around the fact that UTEOTW doesn't have a thing to do with this 'story' you think is there.
Since when are we taking everything Bono says verbatim? 'Punk Rock From Venus'. 'Pop is going to be a dance album'. etc etc.

I am telling you, you are in the minority here.
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