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Old 11-02-2017, 12:52 AM   #76
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See, if U2 began their career in 2000, there's not a chance in hell I'd be a fan of them.

Lucky they were so fucking good before then.
Would you still go to see U2 on this new tour if no songs from before 2000 are played?
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This album seems entirely mastered for headphones so far. It seems very flat and dull through speakers, but there are a lot of subtle details and the sound somehow richer on headphones. Maybe I’m crazy - anyone else hear it this way?

Overall, very positive first impressions of the new tracks for me. Blackout my standout so far.
I thought the exact same thing. Both songs sounded great on headphones this morning but sounded very flat through the car speakers on the way home today. I thought something was wrong with my car speakers.
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Would you still go to see U2 on this new tour if no songs from before 2000 are played?
First response: shit no.

Second response: maybe one show out of idle curiosity, if the date and venue suited.

I mean, if they did a 2000s/10s set with stuff like The Ground Beneath Her Feet, Fez, Cedarwood Road, and The Troubles in it, that wouldn't be too bad, there'd be some great stuff to enjoy. But I've no interest in hearing the ATYCLB/HTDAAB hits yet again, and the singles thereafter are mostly detritus. The JT30 encore is the most bored I've ever been at a U2 show, and I had to stand through In a Little While on 360.
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This album seems entirely mastered for headphones so far. It seems very flat and dull through speakers, but there are a lot of subtle details and the sound somehow richer on headphones. Maybe I’m crazy - anyone else hear it this way?

Overall, very positive first impressions of the new tracks for me. Blackout my standout so far.


Yeah, it sounds incredibly better through headphones.
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Would you still go to see U2 on this new tour if no songs from before 2000 are played?
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Would you?
Definitely. In fact, my hope is that the setlist would only be songs from Innocence and Experience, just those two albums period. That would be so cool and so different from anything they have done in the past on other tours.
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The biggest concern for me is that u2 seem incapable of seeing what a lot of us fans have been able to which is the fact that the material is just passable at best. They genuinely seem very excited about the new material and seem to think that it's up there with their best work. Edge was interviewed during SOI and said that he felt it was as good as JT. Ridiculous levels of over optimism imo.

I feel that they struggled to distinguish between very good and great from Pop until NLOTH and we ended up with good quality music without it hitting the lofty standards of their earlier masterpieces. Nowadays, they seem to have problems distinguishing average from very good. The bar seems to be getting lower with each album and they don't seem to be able to recognise it.
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First response: shit no.

Second response: maybe one show out of idle curiosity, if the date and venue suited.

I mean, if they did a 2000s/10s set with stuff like The Ground Beneath Her Feet, Fez, Cedarwood Road, and The Troubles in it, that wouldn't be too bad, there'd be some great stuff to enjoy. But I've no interest in hearing the ATYCLB/HTDAAB hits yet again, and the singles thereafter are mostly detritus. The JT30 encore is the most bored I've ever been at a U2 show, and I had to stand through In a Little While on 360.
Well, lets narrow it down even more.

How about only songs from Innocence and Experience. Just those two albums. Would you go to see that? I would. It would be so different from any of their prior tours. It would be exciting with all the new stuff.
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Well, lets narrow it down even more.

How about only songs from Innocence and Experience. Just those two albums. Would you go to see that? I would. It would be so different from any of their prior tours. It would be exciting with all the new stuff.
I didn't see the IE Tour, so all songs they could possibly play would be new to me live. So yes, one show out of idle curiosity assuming I did not have to go out of my way to attend.

I would not wish the band do it, though.
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Well, lets narrow it down even more.

How about only songs from Innocence and Experience. Just those two albums. Would you go to see that? I would. It would be so different from any of their prior tours. It would be exciting with all the new stuff.
Your idea of exciting isnt the same as mine.
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These songs (so far) are not for me. They’re for the radio. They’re fine, but I’ll wait for the ache of a Kite that was suggested to be in some of these songs.
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A few opinions:

First - I'm of the Achtung/Zooropa/Pop fan club. Love earlier work too, but I gravitate towards those 3. Of the 2000's I thought SOI was a good album that was underscored by the release tactic. Particularly liked the direction of SLABT, The Troubles, but though Iris, Cedarwood Road and EBW were really good additions to the catalogue.

As for what I've heard so far:

The Blackout - I quite like this one. The Facebook stream was a little muddy. I like the album version quite a bit more. There are some really cool sonic elements to it. Probably my favorite studio version of a song from this album.

TBT - Grew on me. Didn't love it at first. But I enjoy listening to it now. Probably not something that is going to stick long term, but a decent track that I'll come back to once and awhile.

GOOYOW - Didn't like it at first listen. Continuing to give it a few more tries and appreciating some of the elements. Remains to be seen.

American Soul - Mixed feelings on this. Initially really like the verses and still do. The rehash of Volcano/Glastonbury is a little odd...but I'm hoping they had a reason for this. Potentially it has to do with the SOI/SOE theme. I agree with some of the comments that if we hadn't heard the previous versions we might appreciate it a bit more. The music and vocal melody of the versus are a good change.

TLTHGYA - I think I'll like this. I hope they figure out the ending a bit more on the album. Great start...and like the energetic end...but seems to get a little sloppy/repetitive towards the end. We'll see.

Overall pretty excited about what I've heard so far. The fact that their are 13 tracks is exciting and we have a lot more to hear.
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I dunno. When I think Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me I think MacPhisto and the Achtung/Zooropa era. We can debate the exact location of the split til we are blue in the face, but it's there. I chose prior to Pop because that's when I feel like they really changed their sound to follow the trends.

I recently saw a YouTube video with early versions of some of the Pop songs. I really do think that was the album that divides classic U2 and modern U2.
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Your idea of exciting isnt the same as mine.
I still love all the old stuff, but after seeing them 21 times since 1992, having them play just music from their latest two albums would be so radically different from anything they have done before on tour.

Back in 2014, I thought that this was in fact the plan based on things I had heard. I thought Songs Of Experience was going to come out in March 2015 just before the start of the tour.
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Yeah, it sounds incredibly better through headphones.
100% this. In fact, I would go as far as to say that it would be a sin not to hear these songs through headphones. They take whole other life when heard on headphones.
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