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Old 05-22-2017, 10:15 PM   #81
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When will u2 realise that their joyful songs suck? Their best albums like AB, JT, Zoorpoa and TUF have all had a dark edge to them.

I fear that this is going to be another disappointing ATYCLB type album.
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When will u2 realise that their joyful songs suck? Their best albums like AB, JT, Zoorpoa and TUF have all had a dark edge to them.

I fear that this is going to be another disappointing ATYCLB type album.
wow you want some doom metal album mate?
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When will u2 realise that their joyful songs suck? Their best albums like AB, JT, Zoorpoa and TUF have all had a dark edge to them.

I fear that this is going to be another disappointing ATYCLB type album.


Bring back Evil Edge.
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When will u2 realise that their joyful songs suck? Their best albums like AB, JT, Zoorpoa and TUF have all had a dark edge to them.

I fear that this is going to be another disappointing ATYCLB type album.
Have to admit, I totally agree. I could give a shit about another Walk On, or Yahweh, or even BD. Upbeat is ok, if it's in the vein of Crystal Ballroom, or Mysterious Ways, but I would much rather have darker, moodier U2.

I have to admit that the song from the end of the Fender video sounded a bit "joyous" but still sounded great, so hopefully that's more what we get.
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Bring back Evil Edge.
Darker U2 always means a far better Edge performance.
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But Lovetown U2 was not dark yet Edge was on fire then
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But Lovetown U2 was not dark yet Edge was on fire then
But probably the most fire was on God Part II. I just need me some tough Edge back again. Enough of the echoey background strumming. Come to the forefront!
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Darker U2 always means a far better Edge performance.
Even in the darker songs, Edge still would play like Edge. He would mask the delay and other Edgey sounds with pedal/effects that it sounded out of this world.

Every since Vertigo, he seems to be on this 60s/70s riff style, almost trying to be Jimmy Page, and he'll never come close. I don't mind the delay, the classic ringing tones (OOTS is lovely and could listen to the chorus guitar for days) but he has had far too few moments of WOW.

Aside from Bono throwing in as many syllables as he can into a lyric, I feel Edge has really been a let down over the past decade and a half.

Hopefully no more of these styles that we've seen too often

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Gimme more The Fly or Discotheque-esque riffs -
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It does feel like it may the last album.
That's what I heard some people say back in 1988 after Rattle and Hum was released and in the summer of 1993 after Zooropa was released. I remember one person saying in 1993 they just" couldn't see U2 ever writing and recording new material again".
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When will u2 realise that their joyful songs suck? Their best albums like AB, JT, Zoorpoa and TUF have all had a dark edge to them.
Dark is fine, but I don't need to be inspired to slice my wrists opened to think a song is "good" or not. I'm sure there's some Goth fans who think just that and all, but whatever.

As for the whole "ATYCLB = good, 90's bad" arugment... it's not like they were originally foreign to the idea of non-depressing songs in the first place (see IWF, Gloria, Pride, Two Hearts, etc.).
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have u2 ever written wrist-slitting music?

with some exception, I feel like joyful u2 = sappy u2. My second least favorite U2, second only to Haiti mon amour U2.
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I don't mind joyful U2 as long as we get some grime on it as well.
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SOE 20 - Sometimes, the end isn't coming...

As long as it's not dangerously average U2, that's the worst.
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As long as it's not dangerously average U2, that's the worst.
Can you go into more detail please? What is "dangerously average U2"?

could be any other song.... from Walk On to Breathe... to SFS
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Can you go into more detail please? What is "dangerously average U2"?

could be any other song.... from Walk On to Breathe... to SFS
I don't think Breathe is average because it does have some unique elements where they pushed a bit. But yes, Walk On, SFS, Miracle, Yahweh, Miracle Drug, All Because of You, Stuck, Crumbs... Those are all pretty average to me...
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. But yes, Walk On, SFS, Miracle, Yahweh, Miracle Drug, All Because of You, Stuck, Crumbs... Those are all pretty average to me...
Those are all classic songs to me, some of U2's best. Miracle Drug is one of my top 10 favorite U2 songs. Walk On is nearly in my top 10 and I think that song won "Record of The Year" back in 2002 at the Grammy awards. Great song. U2 would often play that at the end of their shows on the last leg of the Elevation Tour. Blew away most of their music from the 90s as well with the exception of a couple of songs.

A song that was just average for me would be something like "Holy Joe ".
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I love Yahweh, find myself humming along with Walk On (especially the simple little piano notes leading into the ending), think Miracle Drug is a song I need to add to my Best of U2 playlist every time I hear it and yet I always forget, enjoy Stuck in a Moment when I am mellow, and generally really like ATYCLB up to its unfortunate cliff (I can never decide if that cliff is after In A Little While or Peace on Earth...sometimes I need to hear Bono pissed off at the world, and POE satisfies). I could live without Crumbs, All Because of You, and a few others, but that is going to be with most albums.


Different? Sure. Not an essential song(s) because they came out at a different time in life when music wasn't the soundtrack of my emerging life? Sure...I find it rare that a new song moves me like the songs that guided me through adolescence into adulthood. But I think placing the "average" tag on very good songs that came at a different time but were very well received by the general public is just opinion, and likely influenced, again, by the "time and place" factor. ATYCLB, for me, did enter my world at a transformative time and shares some of the power of the songs of adolescence (Joshua Tree, etc) or the soundtrack of my college years (Achtung Baby, Zooropa). But I can see where it didn't hit the average U2 fan in that pocket.
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you guys are just generalizing too much.
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