pop vs. atyclb

[Catman]

for this topic, you die in your sleep

 

[U2Man]

for this topic, you die in your sleep

lame.

 

[LemonMelon]

LMAO! Velvet Dress doesn't need any punch, it's gorgeous! If you want a punch, I'll give you one.

It has a punch when played live.

I've been spoiled by its greatness.

 

[Lancemc]

On a purely song by song comparison:

1. Discotheque vs. Beautiful Day
-Beautiful Day
2. Do You Feel Loved vs. Stuck in a Moment
- Do You Feel Loved
3. MOFO vs. Elevation
-Elevation
4. If God Will Send His Angels vs. Walk On
-Walk On
5. Staring At The Sun vs. Kite (bwahahahahah!)
-Kite, duh
6. Last Night On Earth vs. In A Little While
- In A Little While
7. Gone vs. Wild Honey
- Wild Honey
8. Miami vs. Peace on Earth
- Miami
9. The Playboy Mansion vs. When I Look at the World
- When I Look at the World
10. If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs. New York
- If You Wear That Velvet Dress
11. Please vs Grace (very tough, but since Pop's production blows)
- Grace
12. Wake Up Dead Man vs. Ground Beneath Her Feet
- Wake Up Dead Man

So that's Pop - 4 ATYCLB - 8

Now let's rank the songs by quality, THEN compare


1. Wake Up Dead Man vs. Beautiful Day
- Beautiful Day
2. Do You Feel Loved vs. Kite
- Kite
3. If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs. Walk On
- Walk On
4. Please vs. In A Little While
- In A Little While
5. Discotheque vs. Stuck In a Moment
- Stuck in a Moment
6. MOFO vs. Elevation
- Elevation
7. Gone vs. The Ground Beneath Her Feet
- The Ground Beneath Her Feet
8. Miami vs. Wild Honey
- Wild Honey
9. Staring at the Sun vs. Grace
- Grace
10. The Playboy Mansion vs. When I Look At the World
- When I Look At the World
11. If God Will Send His Angels vs. Peace On Earth
- Peace On Earth
12. Last Night On Earth vs. New York
- New York

Wow, that even surprised me. Pop - 0 ATYCLB - 12

I guess the first round, POP got lucky with a few uneven match-ups. But when we rank the songs reasonably, ATYCLB fucking smokes POP. And I was pretty sure that at least New York would lose, because it's really not that good. But as luck would have it, it got matched up against Last Night On Earth. A song that can be fiarly kick-ass live, but on POP, pretty much sucks nuts.

 

[U2Man]

On a purely song by song comparison:

1. Discotheque vs. Beautiful Day
-Beautiful Day
2. Do You Feel Loved vs. Stuck in a Moment
- Do You Feel Loved
3. MOFO vs. Elevation
-Elevation
4. If God Will Send His Angels vs. Walk On
-Walk On
5. Staring At The Sun vs. Kite (bwahahahahah!)
-Kite, duh
6. Last Night On Earth vs. In A Little While
- In A Little While
7. Gone vs. Wild Honey
- Wild Honey
8. Miami vs. Peace on Earth
- Miami
9. The Playboy Mansion vs. When I Look at the World
- When I Look at the World
10. If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs. New York
- If You Wear That Velvet Dress
11. Please vs Grace (very tough, but since Pop's production blows)
- Grace
12. Wake Up Dead Man vs. Ground Beneath Her Feet
- Wake Up Dead Man

So that's Pop - 4 ATYCLB - 8

Now let's rank the songs by quality, THEN compare


1. Wake Up Dead Man vs. Beautiful Day
- Beautiful Day
2. Do You Feel Loved vs. Kite
- Kite
3. If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs. Walk On
- Walk On
4. Please vs. In A Little While
- In A Little While
5. Discotheque vs. Stuck In a Moment
- Stuck in a Moment
6. MOFO vs. Elevation
- Elevation
7. Gone vs. The Ground Beneath Her Feet
- The Ground Beneath Her Feet
8. Miami vs. Wild Honey
- Wild Honey
9. Staring at the Sun vs. Grace
- Grace
10. The Playboy Mansion vs. When I Look At the World
- When I Look At the World
11. If God Will Send His Angels vs. Peace On Earth
- Peace On Earth
12. Last Night On Earth vs. New York
- New York

Wow, that even surprised me. Pop - 0 ATYCLB - 12

I guess the first round, POP got lucky with a few uneven match-ups. But when we rank the songs reasonably, ATYCLB fucking smokes POP. And I was pretty sure that at least New York would lose, because it's really not that good. But as luck would have it, it got matched up against Last Night On Earth. A song that can be fiarly kick-ass live, but on POP, pretty much sucks nuts.

you get an A+. if you wanted to be kind to POP you could have let last night on earth win over new york, since the latter blows. the only one on atyclb that should not have made it.

 

[LemonMelon]

On a purely song by song comparison:

1. Discotheque vs. Beautiful Day
-Beautiful Day
2. Do You Feel Loved vs. Stuck in a Moment
- Do You Feel Loved
3. MOFO vs. Elevation
-Elevation
4. If God Will Send His Angels vs. Walk On
-Walk On
5. Staring At The Sun vs. Kite (bwahahahahah!)
-Kite, duh
6. Last Night On Earth vs. In A Little While
- In A Little While
7. Gone vs. Wild Honey
- Wild Honey
8. Miami vs. Peace on Earth
- Miami
9. The Playboy Mansion vs. When I Look at the World
- When I Look at the World
10. If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs. New York
- If You Wear That Velvet Dress
11. Please vs Grace (very tough, but since Pop's production blows)
- Grace
12. Wake Up Dead Man vs. Ground Beneath Her Feet
- Wake Up Dead Man

So that's Pop - 4 ATYCLB - 8

Now let's rank the songs by quality, THEN compare


1. Wake Up Dead Man vs. Beautiful Day
- Beautiful Day
2. Do You Feel Loved vs. Kite
- Kite
3. If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs. Walk On
- Walk On
4. Please vs. In A Little While
- In A Little While
5. Discotheque vs. Stuck In a Moment
- Stuck in a Moment
6. MOFO vs. Elevation
- Elevation
7. Gone vs. The Ground Beneath Her Feet
- The Ground Beneath Her Feet
8. Miami vs. Wild Honey
- Wild Honey
9. Staring at the Sun vs. Grace
- Grace
10. The Playboy Mansion vs. When I Look At the World
- When I Look At the World
11. If God Will Send His Angels vs. Peace On Earth
- Peace On Earth
12. Last Night On Earth vs. New York
- New York

Wow, that even surprised me. Pop - 0 ATYCLB - 12

I guess the first round, POP got lucky with a few uneven match-ups. But when we rank the songs reasonably, ATYCLB fucking smokes POP. And I was pretty sure that at least New York would lose, because it's really not that good. But as luck would have it, it got matched up against Last Night On Earth. A song that can be fiarly kick-ass live, but on POP, pretty much sucks nuts.

You get an R.

 

[J_NP]

What kind of rate would u give to my view , since it was a 6-6 tie

 

[U2Man]

What kind of rate would u give to my view , since it was a 6-6 tie

you said last night on earth was better than in a little while. that's a crime.

 

[J_NP]

you said last night on earth was better than in a little while. that's a crime.

I didn't actually said that , not even used the word better , I praised both , but since Last Night is very much underrated , and it's one of best rockers of the 90's so .....

 

[Lancemc]

You get an R.

...for Right.

 

[U2girl]

Winners song by song:

1. BD; Discotheque is average, while BD is one of their best album openers, and the song that brought them back on the map.

2. Stuck in a moment; I prefer a well built pop song over a weak dance flirt with a theme that was far better done on EBTTRT and AB in general.

3. Mofo, better even if the sonics save it from being an average song.

4. Overrated, the both of them. A tie. (if I had to pick a slight nudge for Walk on as it gets closer to being a solid classic U2 sound where IFGSHA fails at being a good bittersweet U2 love song)

5. Kite, it's everything SATS wanted to be. Anthemic song, huge chorus and without sounding like someone else too hard.

6. IALW; give me a nicely done soul song over the weakest rock song U2 ever put out. A 2nd rate UTEOTW.

7. Gone, now that's how you do a good rock song.

8. Anything wins over Miami.

9. Playboy mansion, it is underrated. WILATW is weak lyrics, not even saved by Edge's guitar.

10. IYWTVD, NY is a decent rock song but that's it.

11. Please, Grace is weak as a song and especially as a closer.

12. Ground beneath their feet. Bunch of sounds covered underneath the surface don't make a great song.

 

[Zoots]

They both suck. This band sucks too. Only classical music is good music.

 

[namkcuR]

Mofo vs. Elevation - 2 rock songs with weak lyrics. What the hell...Elevation.

Mofo is one of Bono's absolute lyrical masterpieces.

 

[U2Man]

They both suck. This band sucks too. Only classical music is good music.

i think you have already been told to leave once in this thread.

 

[Zoots]

i think you have already been told to leave once in this thread.

But this thread is good entertainment and a great escape from work.

 

[Axver]

you said last night on earth was better than in a little while. that's a crime.

LNOE shits on IALW until it is starved of oxygen and dies, then buries it in a deep grave so that nobody may ever recover the body.

And why didn't I get a mark?

 

[Lancemc]

Last Night On Earth is garbage.

 

[U2Man]

Last Night On Earth is garbage.

 

[U2Man]

Discotheque vs. Beautiful Day - Discotheque is so much better it can't even compare.
Do You Feel Loved vs. Stuck in a Moment - a underrated, amazing gem vs. a cliched lemonade of a song?
Mofo vs. Elevation - Do I even have to say it? Mofo kicks some serious ass, Elevation is one of the cheesiest songs I've ever heard.
If God Will Send His Angels vs. Walk On - Both are great, Walk On wins because of the beautiful outro.
Staring at the Sun vs. Kite - the live versions of Kite are amazing, the studio version is bad, so the nod is to SATS.
Last Night on Earth vs. In a Little While - Last Night on Earth is one of the best U2 rock songs, In a Little While is pretty much dull.
Gone vs. Wild Honey - this is almost as stupid as comparing Mofo to Elevation. Gone is fabulous, Wild Honey has the "I was a monkey" line.
Miami vs. Peace on Earth - Miami is a cool song that gets a new life live, Peace on Earth is in my top 3. Of the worst U2 songs. Miami by a mile.
The Playboy Mansion vs. When I Look at the World - Playboy Mansion is the only bad Pop song, When I Look at the World is better, just because of that great solo in the middle that comes out of nowhere.
If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs. New York - Velvet Dress is the band's most underrated, simply beautiful atmospheric song that sounds like nothing U2 ever did. New York is OK, could have been much better if not for the terrible lyrics.
Please vs. Grace - check out what I think about the Mofo/Elevation or Gone/Wild Honey debate.
...and you get a fantastic album closer called Wake Up Dead Man; The Ground Beneath Her Feet, although a beautiful song, is not really part of ATYCLB so I won't compare it.

So, yeah, I think Pop is better.

c-

 

[U2Man]

Although Pop doesn't rank in the top half of U2's albums for me, I feel it's aeons ahead of ATYCLB. Lyrically, I can't believe ATYCLB came directly after something so deep and insightful as Pop.

But alright, song by song:

1. Discotheque vs Beautiful Day
Discotheque is the better song - live. I really don't enjoy the studio version much. Meanwhile, I consider Beautiful Day to be a "just plain average" U2 song, so it gets the nod over Discotheque.

2. Do You Feel Loved vs Fuckoff In A Moment
I'd vote for Bono reciting the phone book over Stuck. I really hate Stuck.

3. Mofo vs Elevation
No motherfucking contest. Mofo has some of the best damn lyrics Bono's ever written, and the intensity to suit them. Elevation, while pretty fun live, is flat in the studio.

4. If God Will Send His Angels vs Walk On
IGWSHA is better lyrically, yes. But Walk On is executed much better; IGWSHA is the only song on Pop that I think is obviously incomplete. This is a close one though and I nearly gave IGWSHA the win.

5. Staring At The Sun vs Kite
Not a big SATS fan except for the live electric version when it didn't fall apart. It just doesn't do much for me.

6. Last Night On Earth vs In A Little While
Not even a contest. One of U2's worst songs versus one of their greatest rockers.

7. Gone vs Wild Honey
Even less of a contest. One of U2's worst songs versus one of their ten greatest gems.

8. Miami vs Peace On Earth
Lame, cheesy as hell songs. POE wins because it sounds nicer. Miami's live version slaughters both though.

9. The Playboy Mansion vs When I Look At The World
WILATW is the only truly great song on ATYCLB besides TGBHF. Playboy Mansion is a largely directionless clunker.

10. If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs New York
IYWTVD is a beautiful, subtle, sensual song. New York didn't come alive until it hit the concert setting.

11. Please vs Grace
OK, everyone here knows I really like Grace, but let's face it, Please is a masterpiece. You can't not vote for it here.

12. Wake Up Dead Man vs The Ground Beneath Her Feet
I love TGBHF and all, but Wake Up Dead Man is one of Bono's best lyrical efforts ever, and the intricacies hidden in the music are astounding.

I'm surprised ATYCLB actually won 5 of those match-ups. I'm sure it would have faired worse had I tried to pair like song to like song, but I'm too tired and lazy to do that.

c

 

[Axver]

Last Night On Earth is garbage.

The way you continually suck up to ATYCLB is garbage.

(Especially because ATYCLB itself is garbage.)

 

[Zoots]

Both work well in their respective albums. Last Night On Earth is a perfect fit for the gritty feel of Pop. And In A Little While's beautiful melody works well for the sunny ATYCLB. Why this endless need to compare? Geez!

 

[MrPryck2U]

This thread is on fire. Can't we all just get along?

 

[U2Man]

(Especially because ATYCLB itself is garbage.)

you're not allowed in the classroom anymore.

 

[Lancemc]

This thread is garbage. Pop's production is garbage. Your lack of appreciation for a gorgeous album like ATYCLB is garbage. And deny it all you want, but yes, LNOE is indeed garbage.

 

[U2Man]

This thread is garbage.

you're not allowed in the classroom anymore either. so sad to see an A+-student get expelled like this

 

[Lancemc]

Oh well, everyone's allowed a bad day here and there.

 

[bmgwd89]

1. Discotheque vs. Beautiful Day: Beautiful Day
2. Do You Feel Loved vs. Stuck in a Moment: Stuck
3. Mofo vs. Elevation: Mofo
4. If God Will Send His Angels vs. Walk On: Walk On
5. Staring At The Sun vs. Kite: Kite
6. Last Night On Earth vs. In A Little While: LNOE
7. Gone vs. Wild Honey: Gone
8. Miami vs. Peace on Earth: Miami
9. The Playboy Mansion vs. When I Look at the World: WILATW
10. If You Wear That Velvet Dress vs. New York: New York
11. Please vs Grace: Please
12. Wake Up Dead Man vs. Ground Beneath Her Feet: WUDM

6 to 6, how about that? I do not really have any witty insults for the songs I liked less, as I do not really hate any of these songs. Although I would say that rating them based on quality would be more accurate, as has already been displayed earlier in the thread.

 

[Axver]

you're not allowed in the classroom anymore.

I wouldn't want to be in a classroom that 1. doesn't give me marks and 2. tortures its students with a steaming sack of shit!

 

[U2Man]

I wouldn't want to be in a classroom that 1. doesn't give me marks and 2. tortures its students with a steaming sack of shit!

you have been given marks. you just dont pay attention. makes me feel better about expelling you.