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Old 11-16-2006, 05:33 PM   #16
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What song by U2 sounds like pop music? I don't undertand where those who say they are pop or pop-rock are coming from.
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Old 11-16-2006, 05:37 PM   #17
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Wild Honey is pop.

So was 80% of everything The Beatles ever recorded.

People have different views of pop.

I think of pop as great, catchy, urgent songs, that demand your attention.

"Fool In The Rain" by Zeppelin is pop as pop can be.

Others think of all pop as "Top 40": Nsync, Britney, etc.

We call these people idiots.
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Others think of pop as "Top 40": Nsync, Britney, etc.

We call these people idiots.
The people or the artists?

I admire your bluntness MrBrau1.
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Old 11-16-2006, 06:02 PM   #19
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U2 are Pop-Rock
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Old 11-16-2006, 06:43 PM   #20
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I admire your bluntness MrBrau1.
He's blunt, but he's correct. If any self-respecting music fans associate pop music ONLY with Justin Timberlake and the like, then they are indeed horribly misinformed. 'Idiot' is maybe a strong word, but...
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Old 11-16-2006, 07:21 PM   #21
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In my opinion U2 have always been a mixture between a popband and a rockband. Since the release of ATYCLB it seems they've become more like a pop band. Only songs like Elevation, Vertigo, LAPOE and Crumbs have a little rocking feeling, although with a poppy edge. I have nothing against real pop bands, but I just don't hope U2 will go that way. That's why I truly hope they won't go the musical direction of Window in the Skies.
U2 seems to explore various genres of music. I feel that ATYCLB and HTDAAB, for the first time, is U2 exploring the more "pop sound" of U2. That is, see if they could make U2 songs that could be hits. Keep in mind, this is U2, so we aren't talking Timberlake or Mariah or Christina or Shakira or whomever style of "pop". Instead, it's more of a Beatle-esque style. And I appreciate it for what it is. It's not something U2 has done before and in that sense, it is rather unique.

Additionally, U2 usually explore a style for a few albums. There's the famous breakdown of threes: Boy-War, UF-R&H, AB-Pop. So will there be a third album in this style? Possibly.

But note what happens as U2 explores that sound. Usually it becomes darker, harsher, more experimental and more "rockin'". Granted, there are exceptions to this if one did a song to song comparison - I'm just talking about the general feel to the albums.

And we can hear this already with "Bomb" with "Love & Peace" and "Fast Cars". Therefore, if U2 continues this trend of "threes", while I expect some pop-rock songs like WITS, I also expect some songs that might really throw us. For example, while "Pop" was written in the same vein as AB and "Zooropa", "Mofo" was like nothing they ever did and was really unique for U2.

While I do really enjoy ATYCLB and HTDAAB, even I have to admit to not wanting another pure pop album. We got that, but I too hope U2 get more rocking and forget songs like "A Man and a Woman" or "One Step Closer". HTDAAB would have been so much better, IMO, had it included "Electrical Storm" and "Mercy" (or even WITS) instead. Therefore, U2 needs to save some of this light "adult contemporary" stuff for their b-sides or special releases. Give us one more great rock or harder edged album. It might just be the last one!
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U2 have been a Pop band since War in a sense. Nothing to be ashamed of.
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Give us one more great rock or harder edged album. It might just be the last one!
But even U2's "rock" has been very pop-rock of late. From the brilliant (Beautiful Day) to the awful (All Because of You). I think it would be great if they put all their big-single energy into only a few songs on an album, and let the rest run free. I don't have a problem at all with U2 creating and wanting universal tunes that appeal to a mass audience - it's a great thing and when they nail it, they fucking nail it - I just wish they'd mix it with some stuff that, how do I explain, is swimming in waters that run a little deeper?

So many of the ATYCLB/Bomb songs only get a listen from me when I'm doing surface level stuff. Vertigo, Elevation, COBL - I swear I only listen to these type of songs when I'm running. I'm not really paying any attention, I just want some upbeat music. I can't really think of any songs off the Bomb that I listen to when I'm in a real music-listening mood. They just don't satisfy me like that. Late night/headphones & the Bomb mix like oil and water to me. I miss that side of U2.
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:35 PM   #24
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But if Pop music is stuff thats "generated by producers for the masses" then I say U2 definitely isn't. Their sound IMHO has never been mainstream. They've always stood out from the other popular music. I don't fit them into the mold of today's rock, nor do I fit them into the mold of pop music. Even with the local rock station, their music sounds nothing like the new stuff that's dominating the airwaves.
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depends on your Pop.

Originally, "Pop" was short for "Popular"

Differen tconnotation today I know.

However I defy anyone to listen to great "Pop" albums like Dear 23 or Bellybutton and say it's not art and just downright incredible songwriting

Most recently, U2 hasn't been as much Pop as I'd say more just plain uninspiring and bland.
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Old 11-16-2006, 09:03 PM   #26
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Aside from the beatles / 80 , when else Pop music had a simple thing called.....

'Guitar ' ? specially Explorer

U can't say u2 is exactly doing pop sound , not until The Pop Artists or whatever know what's a thing called Big Muff , or Tube Screamer

And more
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Most recently, U2 hasn't been as much Pop as I'd say more just plain uninspiring and bland.
but apparently you don't think U2's fanboards are
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but apparently you don't think U2's fanboards are
but i think you are
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Ironically, U2's last Rock album was POP
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