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Old 12-17-2004, 07:25 AM   #1
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POP! as it was intended

i have posted about this before on other forums, basically everyone knows that "pop" was never finished!
and when the band released singles from the album they were completely reworked as were songs on the last" best of " that were from "pop".

so ive compiled a version of "pop" with all the reworks and a few of the mixes from the singles.

basically its nearer to what the band intended .

here it is

"ALTERNATIVE POP"

1.Discotheque (new mix)
2.Holy joe
3.Mofo(phunk force mix)
4.If god will send his angels(single version)
5.Staring at the sun (new mix)
6.Last night on earth(single version)
7.Gone (new mix)
8.Please(single version)
9.North and south of the river
10.Slow dancing(bono and willie nelson)
11.Two shots of happy one of sad
12.Happiness is a warm gun
13.Big girls are best(cos its from the pop sessions)
14.Pop musik(popmart mix)
15.Dirty day(bitter kiss)
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:28 AM   #2
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I HATE the new mix of SATS...
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I HATE the new mix of SATS...
They removed the rhythm electric guitar that kicks in during the chorus. It NEEDS that guitar track!
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:40 AM   #4
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I'll keep my regular version. To put it delicately, the new mixes of Discotheque and especially SATS suck ass.
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I HATE the new mix of SATS...
i prefer the original as well
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it is a good idea but you should be selective in implementing it. new mix of Gone, yes but new mixes of disco and sats are not needed in my books. the single versions of last night, god will send and please are the most important improvements.

to suggest that U2 intended for the phunk force mix of mofo to be the album cut is...comical.
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i prefer the original as well
im not saying that i like all the new versions , its just the band must have remixed or re-recorded them for a reason , and if you put them together its nearly what they intended to do in the first place,
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My version would be:

Discothèque (Single Version) - With a slightly different beginning... I think they added that dizzing effect last minute... it's cleaner but more powerfol to me.

Do You Feel Loved?

MoFo

If God Will Send His Angels (Single Version)

Staring At The Sun

Last Night On Earth (Single Version)

Gone (New Mix)

Miami

Playboy Mansion

If You Wear That Velvet Dress

Please (Single Version)

Wake Up Dead Men

Also mention that I think the songs they "fixed" were the stronger ones, not the weaker ones for me... (Miami, PM, IYWTVD)
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Re: POP! as it was intended

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i have posted about this before on other forums, basically everyone knows that "pop" was never finished!
Actually, this is complete Bono B.S.

I have the souvenier book from the Popmart tour, and in it the band are quoted as having said how happy they were to have taken their time and finished the album...and how excited they were for everyone to hear it.

The "unfinished" comments are an excuse that was invented when Pop was deemed as mediocre by the general public.
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POP will not forever be deemed mediocre.....if anyone other than U2 had released that album, people would have been declaring it genius. The album has some of their best songwriting and is "different" than anything else they have done.
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It's a great album
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Re: Re: POP! as it was intended

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Actually, this is complete Bono B.S.

I have the souvenier book from the Popmart tour, and in it the band are quoted as having said how happy they were to have taken their time and finished the album...and how excited they were for everyone to hear it.

The "unfinished" comments are an excuse that was invented when Pop was deemed as mediocre by the general public.
Yep, your 100% right. I read that book too in the Vegas twilight waiting for U2 to go on and remember how proud the band was of Pop. In all the interviews Bono praised Pop so much while bashing the media for the negative reviews.

I do think the band could have used a few more months for the singles that came out that year, but not Disco or SATS. Songs that needed work on the Pop album are:

IGWSHA-change to single version
LNOE-single version or more like live version
Playboy Mansion-little more production
Please-single version

With these changes Pop would have been a five star album. I still see it as a 4.5 though
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#1 - slow dancing & two shots... don't quite fit on Pop... i love both songs, but they don't fit the theme of the album. and anyways, two shots... was written as a birthday gift for frank sinatra and was never intended to be on pop in the first place.

#2- u2 have never put a cover on a studio album, so trash warm gun & pop muzik from that list

#3 - big girls wasn't finished until the ATYCLB sessions, so scrap that one too

#4 - ummmmmmm... i don't quite think they'd put a remix of a song that was already on a u2 album on a proper studio album, so hasta la vista dirty day.

ok so that knocks 6 songs off of your version, which brings it down to 9... u2 albums tend to be 11 or 12 songs long, so let me take a stab at what i think it should be.

1. discotheque
2. do you feel loved
3. mofo
4. if god will send his angels
5. staring at the sun
6. last night on earth
7. gone
8. miami
9. playboy mansion
10. if you wear that velvet dress
11. please
12. wake up dead man

there... i think if u2 had released pop just like that that the album would debut at #1 and they'd have one of the highest grossing world wide tours of all time to back the album.
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#1 - slow dancing & two shots... don't quite fit on Pop... i love both songs, but they don't fit the theme of the album. and anyways, two shots... was written as a birthday gift for frank sinatra and was never intended to be on pop in the first place.

#2- u2 have never put a cover on a studio album, so trash warm gun & pop muzik from that list

#3 - big girls wasn't finished until the ATYCLB sessions, so scrap that one too

#4 - ummmmmmm... i don't quite think they'd put a remix of a song that was already on a u2 album on a proper studio album, so hasta la vista dirty day.

ok so that knocks 6 songs off of your version, which brings it down to 9... u2 albums tend to be 11 or 12 songs long, so let me take a stab at what i think it should be.

1. discotheque
2. last night on earth
3. mofo
4. if god will send his angels
5. staring at the sun
6. last night on earth
7. gone
8. miami
9. playboy mansion
10. if you wear that velvet dress
11. please
12. wake up dead man

there... i think if u2 had released pop just like that that the album would debut at #1 and they'd have one of the highest grossing world wide tours of all time to back the album.
Yea, like that didn't happen
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