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Rock n' Roll Doggie
I don't know what to say about Jackie Chan vs. the NFL, but I do have a few other comments re: JTL's article:
1)I don't know about U2 being the quintessential American band as you suggest, but the reality is that they probably booked U2 way before 9/11 made patriotism trendy, and so they just had to go with it. Springsteen probably had somewhere else to be. Although I think Sunday Bloody Sunday would have been a better choice of songs...
2)Did anyone else notice that when Paul McCartney broke into "Hard Day's Night" with Terry Bradshaw that he said "I've been working like a log..."?
3) Do you really think Brittney would have been hotter in the 50s? I think it's a sad state of affairs that Brittney is our culture's closest approximation to Marilyn Monroe. fake tan, fake boobs, works out 100 hours a week -- can't believe that's our society's idea of sexy...
h ? 02/05/02 09:55am
oh yeah, and what the hell is "mlife"?
h ? 02/05/02 10:04am
As I sat in the Nisei Lounge in Chicago for the fourth consecutive Super Bowl, drinking myself into oblivion and considering during half-time how it was that my Super Bowl tradition has come to be sitting in the Nisei Lounge drinking myself into oblivion, I was immediately irritated by U2 and their performance. Which is not surprising, given my attitude towards that band and how silly they have become (even sillier than Sir Silly Love Songs). Of course someone like Bruce Springsteen, hell, even Billy Joel would have been a better choice. It also occured to me that perhaps some of the 9/11 victims' families might not be too keen on participating in a Super Bowl celebration. Football may be our most popular pro sport, but that makes it more ubiquitous than universal.
But then U2 started to play "Streets" and I broke down. I was touched, moved even. I felt the patriotism (and the Pabst) burning inside me. It dawned on me that perhaps some clever marketer of about my own age had suggested that U2 dust off one of their older songs such that the usually cynical 30-ish crowd that thinks U2 sold out after Joshua Tree might not dismiss the whole thing. And it worked--and for once, I was glad to be effectively marketed at because it felt so good.
sab [sab@gloriousnoise.com] ? 02/05/02 01:21pm
Bono sucks!
e & h ? 02/05/02 04:28pm
Well, Jackie Chan sings in "Shanghai Noon," and I'm sure as hell glad that he didn't do the halftime show.
(BTW: While not a U2 fan, thinking that it (esp. Bono) has become as ubiquitous as Sting, which means more evident than the NFL, I must say that the "show"--and let's not forget that it was a "show"--was striking. And unlike my colleague, I was sitting in my house, stone-sober. Manipulated? Yep.)
gsv [gsv@gloriousnoise.com] ? 02/05/02 07:33pm
I, too, was surprised by how much I liked U2's halftime show.
Jake [jake at gloriousnoise dot com] ? 02/06/02 07:11am
I almost didn't watch the halftime show, but I figured since (*gasp*) the actual *game* managed to snag my attention, I'd give it a shot. I, too, was quite moved as Edge's light riff led into "Streets"... Maybe I'm just becoming a sap in my old age, or maybe it was the sheer shock of seeing a SuperBowl display that actually *meant* something, but I thought it was a good show.
"Jackie Chan versus the AFC - FIGHT!"
Joshua ? 02/06/02 02:08pm
I thought U2 did a good job, but why couldn't they have played the Superbowl at the end of the Pop tour? Glitter suits, giant lemon disco balls, village people - now that's the Superbowl.
...Right, that's a combo #3, and I'd like my overexposed, sellout commercialism supersized please.
mike [michaelpatrickl@msn.com] ? 02/06/02 03:23pm
I think we were touched by U2's performance because despite people's feelings, they are a really good band. They know how to build the tension and then let rip right at the right moment. Like their music or don't, but at least admit they know what they're doing.
Derek Phillips [dphillips@glono.com] ? 02/06/02 04:49pm
"I was glad to be effectively marketed at because it felt so good..." LOL...
I only saw part of halftime, it was the end of "Elevation" into "Streets". I was also involuntarily moved. I also thought U2 had all the skills even though I'm not their biggest fan.
I was immediately cynical about the banner with the names of the victims, but then it struck me that it was a pretty decent memorial, a stadium full of people cheering on the memory of those that died. What a wave of human emotion. With U2 acting a rock and roll servant-kings. Don't you love that feeling when you're in a stadium and you're part of a great big cheer? I really felt that feeling from the TV broadcast. Whatever your political beliefs may be, your feelings for or against U2, I do think that broadcast invited you to be a part of a celebration, and I sincerely appreciated it. Didn't cost me a dime, either.
Ryan King [ryankingiswonderful@yahoo.com] ? 02/07/02 07:32am
So who's got an mlife?
sab [sab@gloriousnoise.com] ? 02/07/02 08:44am
How long before someone has an mlife crisis?
gsv [gsv@gloriousnoise.com] ? 02/08/02 03:31pm
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so bounce, basketball, bounce
1)I don't know about U2 being the quintessential American band as you suggest, but the reality is that they probably booked U2 way before 9/11 made patriotism trendy, and so they just had to go with it. Springsteen probably had somewhere else to be. Although I think Sunday Bloody Sunday would have been a better choice of songs...
2)Did anyone else notice that when Paul McCartney broke into "Hard Day's Night" with Terry Bradshaw that he said "I've been working like a log..."?
3) Do you really think Brittney would have been hotter in the 50s? I think it's a sad state of affairs that Brittney is our culture's closest approximation to Marilyn Monroe. fake tan, fake boobs, works out 100 hours a week -- can't believe that's our society's idea of sexy...
h ? 02/05/02 09:55am
oh yeah, and what the hell is "mlife"?
h ? 02/05/02 10:04am
As I sat in the Nisei Lounge in Chicago for the fourth consecutive Super Bowl, drinking myself into oblivion and considering during half-time how it was that my Super Bowl tradition has come to be sitting in the Nisei Lounge drinking myself into oblivion, I was immediately irritated by U2 and their performance. Which is not surprising, given my attitude towards that band and how silly they have become (even sillier than Sir Silly Love Songs). Of course someone like Bruce Springsteen, hell, even Billy Joel would have been a better choice. It also occured to me that perhaps some of the 9/11 victims' families might not be too keen on participating in a Super Bowl celebration. Football may be our most popular pro sport, but that makes it more ubiquitous than universal.
But then U2 started to play "Streets" and I broke down. I was touched, moved even. I felt the patriotism (and the Pabst) burning inside me. It dawned on me that perhaps some clever marketer of about my own age had suggested that U2 dust off one of their older songs such that the usually cynical 30-ish crowd that thinks U2 sold out after Joshua Tree might not dismiss the whole thing. And it worked--and for once, I was glad to be effectively marketed at because it felt so good.
sab [sab@gloriousnoise.com] ? 02/05/02 01:21pm
Bono sucks!
e & h ? 02/05/02 04:28pm
Well, Jackie Chan sings in "Shanghai Noon," and I'm sure as hell glad that he didn't do the halftime show.
(BTW: While not a U2 fan, thinking that it (esp. Bono) has become as ubiquitous as Sting, which means more evident than the NFL, I must say that the "show"--and let's not forget that it was a "show"--was striking. And unlike my colleague, I was sitting in my house, stone-sober. Manipulated? Yep.)
gsv [gsv@gloriousnoise.com] ? 02/05/02 07:33pm
I, too, was surprised by how much I liked U2's halftime show.
Jake [jake at gloriousnoise dot com] ? 02/06/02 07:11am
I almost didn't watch the halftime show, but I figured since (*gasp*) the actual *game* managed to snag my attention, I'd give it a shot. I, too, was quite moved as Edge's light riff led into "Streets"... Maybe I'm just becoming a sap in my old age, or maybe it was the sheer shock of seeing a SuperBowl display that actually *meant* something, but I thought it was a good show.
"Jackie Chan versus the AFC - FIGHT!"
Joshua ? 02/06/02 02:08pm
I thought U2 did a good job, but why couldn't they have played the Superbowl at the end of the Pop tour? Glitter suits, giant lemon disco balls, village people - now that's the Superbowl.
...Right, that's a combo #3, and I'd like my overexposed, sellout commercialism supersized please.
mike [michaelpatrickl@msn.com] ? 02/06/02 03:23pm
I think we were touched by U2's performance because despite people's feelings, they are a really good band. They know how to build the tension and then let rip right at the right moment. Like their music or don't, but at least admit they know what they're doing.
Derek Phillips [dphillips@glono.com] ? 02/06/02 04:49pm
"I was glad to be effectively marketed at because it felt so good..." LOL...
I only saw part of halftime, it was the end of "Elevation" into "Streets". I was also involuntarily moved. I also thought U2 had all the skills even though I'm not their biggest fan.
I was immediately cynical about the banner with the names of the victims, but then it struck me that it was a pretty decent memorial, a stadium full of people cheering on the memory of those that died. What a wave of human emotion. With U2 acting a rock and roll servant-kings. Don't you love that feeling when you're in a stadium and you're part of a great big cheer? I really felt that feeling from the TV broadcast. Whatever your political beliefs may be, your feelings for or against U2, I do think that broadcast invited you to be a part of a celebration, and I sincerely appreciated it. Didn't cost me a dime, either.
Ryan King [ryankingiswonderful@yahoo.com] ? 02/07/02 07:32am
So who's got an mlife?
sab [sab@gloriousnoise.com] ? 02/07/02 08:44am
How long before someone has an mlife crisis?
gsv [gsv@gloriousnoise.com] ? 02/08/02 03:31pm
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so bounce, basketball, bounce
