Who's "we" though ?
This is related to the feelings, "doctorwho" expressed in his posting and are shared in a way by myself.
OK, got it.
Most of the forum still laps up anything 90's U2, and Pop gets defended like there's no tomorrow.
Simply because POP was by far better than ATYCLB - while I still defend HTDAAB like there's no tomorrow, even if it may not be that experimental.
"By far better?" Agree to disagree, then. Both Pop and ATYCLB are overrated.
I don't think JT, R/H, AB or ATYCLB were perfectly produced.
No, just as Michelangelo had real problems with the Sixtin Chapel, Picasso couldn't paint and "Like A Rolling Stone" was not THAT good - hello irony? This point of yours is a bit nonsense, isn't it?
Did you hear the JT remaster ? You really think AB, R/H, AB and ATYCLB won't benefit from that as well ?
That isn't to say the last two albums didn't have good songs.
I don't say, these tunes were not good. But they were - and will always be in the test of time - weaker than the real songs, U2 recorded in the 80ies and 90ies.
You have to consider the legendary status of the 80's songs and One though. BD is already talked about as a great song, and I'd say COBL is too. And I think all comparisons and analysis of 00's vs 90's and 80's can only be properly done once this decade is over and once we hear this next album (or two).
Previous decades both had a misstep (Rattle and Pop)
Nope, both records are great - in the way of songs and sounds. This of course is a matter of taste and preference. But listen to tunes like "God Part II", "Heartland", "If You Wear That Velvet Dress" or "Wake Up Dead Man" (not to mention the singles of both albums) - if you have ears to listen, you'll never talk again about a misstep regarding these records. They ARE masterpieces.
I did listen to them, and they aren't a masterpiece - not when you know this is the same band that did JT and AB. And not when this is the band that did One, Pride, WOWY etc.
The lyrics have changed which is normal: I don't expect a man in his 40's to write about the same things he did in his 20's or 30's, and the guy in his 50s (60's?) will have different lyrical topics.
Ahem, no again. It is not the topics, but the craft & inspiration a singer & songwriter puts into the words. If you give all your heart and soul into it, if you have the big pictures, the poetic landscapes, but also the 'simple' human feelings, the pictures of normal life - you know the difference. And Bono knows, that he does spend less time on music and songwriting and more on other things. Don't judge it, but do not ignore that either. He can do better ...
It is about the topics. It's easier to be poetic if you write about a different country and culture or human relationship as opposed to writing about family and things that go on in your own life. I did say before Bono was the weak link on the last two albums, however, I expect more from Edge too.
So, u2girl, another time we are not together - but that's our fate, I guess. Happy New Year to y'all, by the way ...
