LemonMacPhisto said:
You're right, but it still amazes me there are people out there who cannot accept the fact that this is actually happening.
Ahem, no. Actually your statement(s) and some othere here, too, show the unsolvable problem of this thread. You and some of your buddies ignore the actual topic here (by other standards, you would have closed this useless and wrong leading "battle" long ago ...) because of your very one-sided point of views and argumentation.
The actual topic is: Disappointed, U2 didn't play "Live Earth"? Yes? Or no?
The answer: Some fans are, some fans aren't. And we won't go any further than that, I promise.
Now the discussion has taken another road: Because you and some others think, that fans, who are happy with U2 not having played, automatically ignore/don't accept the climate change theories.
But this kind of manipulating other people's views is very dangerous, my dear. Think about it.
Because (nearly) everybody here knows, that there is climate change. It is a fact that weather extremes are more common in the last decades and mankind seems to contribute, too. But just remember, that here in Middle Europe, where there are now green and (maybe too) sunny meadows, some thousand years ago there were gigantic glaciers. A fact, too.
So obviously there are big differences here in opinions, how/when/whether the climate change, in which we do live for thousands of years and do live today, will affect our lives now. And how/when/whether our industrial, world polluting societies worldwide do enforce the climate change. And how/when/whether/what we really can do "against" the natural/man-made climate change.
And to return to the topic, there are big differences, whether this debatable "Live Earth" spectacle will help/ has helped anything at all to improve the situation. And with no jealousy, folks: I doubt, whether so called speakers or singers for the good cause, who mostly own the biggest cars, the biggest private jets, who build the biggest hitech stages (needing a power station on their own for one single gig....), who own a dozen properties, are really convincing diplomates for "save one light bulb and the world will be a better place". I think, that's perverse.
So please allow me, that I don't beLIEve in "Live Earth" and its heads.
And unfortunately I do see now politicians jump on a new (popularized) train waggon, promising a lot, keeping nothing – except the news, we all have to pay (newly invented) taxes "for the environment" – that will be used for other things without our knowing. This all happeing, while other important, "promised to be solved problems" disappear in the shelves of (inter) national politicians.
Just listen outside: Who still talks now about mass starvation in Africa and on other continents? Who still talks about mass poverty in your own countries? And what is done here? It's quiet outside now regarding these important topics.
There's a dark side of the moon, folks, a dangerous shadow in the spotlights of "Live Earth"...
@ some other folks
I don't want to "shape" any discussion here, but I want to hear real, constructive arguments – and try (neither by myself not always successful, too) to keep a kind of civilized discussion culture and tolerance. Just respect that difference in opinions – as I do respect yours. That's all, but it's not black & white ...