Boy Remastered in May ?

[Reggie Thee Dog]

All I have to say is this: Full concert Point Depot DVD, bitches.

Is Rattle and Hum even on the list right now?

 

[KhanadaRhodes]

Have to? There are enough unreleased songs from the Pre-Boy era that a re-issued Boy could easily fill a bonus disc with studio material before live stuff is even given a thought.

i'd personally rather have a bonus disc full of the various takes of them recording the early version of twilight

 

[Vlaco]

26/12/1989

 

[the tourist]

I would rather have a re-recording of the entire album.

If they did everything except for vocals. They'd have to use the original vocals. But that might be cool. Release a remaster, and as a bonus disc a re-record. It'll never happen, though. Never.

 

[the tourist]

Is Rattle and Hum even on the list right now?

At the current rate, maybe next January we'll get TUF and R&H.

 

[U2FanPeter]

if the San Fran 81 footage is owned by Wolfgang's Vault(formerly BGP) and not U2, then it's ain't gonna be on the new DVD.

 

[Muldfeld]

aww here we go with the complaining. for fuck sake these cds need remastering. thank god they're getting a release. REM have done it, Dylan's done it, the Stones, the Cure, Sonic Youth, etc. Why do people see everything as a money grab??

I'm happy with any proper remaster. I just want a concert DVD for each album, and I fear we won't get that, and that's a shame.

I think the problem of money-grubbing, for me, comes in when the band's releasing substandard product and charging a whole lot. The deluxe Zoo TV DVD was reasonably priced, but Popmart is substantially more expensive in Canada, and for less documentary footage. Both these releases could have had entire extra concerts as a second or third disc (we'd have paid extra for that); instead we get a few songs and U2 will cash in later. Same thing with the Milan DVD, which was unnecessarily cut down. Who doesn't think the Vertigo 2nd disc was a joke? And so it goes. I do think the Joshua Tree deluxe release was great, though, and I wish they'd put that kind of effort for all the remasters. I want at least a couple of new concerts for the Achtung Baby release, including songs like "Ultraviolet" in the setlist.

 

[Muldfeld]

No one but the hardcore fan base and music fans with a post-punk fetish will give a toss about Boy, October, and War remaster releases

I consider myself a U2 fan, and I'm not sure I even care about these. Bono's vocals at this time were pretty bad; I'd be interested in War concert footage, though, and a to have "A Celebration" on CD.

 

[Muldfeld]

Is Rattle and Hum even on the list right now?

Well, in December, Paul McGuiness gave a radio interview saying that every U2 album would get this treatment in the next 2 years, so it will eventually be on the list -- maybe not this year, but eventually. Exciting, no?

 

[chrissybaby]

Am i the only person who would prefer Sydney 89 to Point Depot Dec 31st? These Sydney shows are IMO some of the best they ever played...

Normally I'd be a bit put off by all this remaster stuff but because there is so little promotion it does feel like it is accepted that these releases are just for hardcore fans and I kinda like that...

The remaster I want more than anything is TUF... Don't care about bonus anything, just want that album remastered...

 

[BVS]

I think the problem of money-grubbing, for me, comes in when the band's releasing substandard product and charging a whole lot. The deluxe Zoo TV DVD was reasonably priced, but Popmart is substantially more expensive in Canada, and for less documentary footage.

They have no control over the pricing in Canada, even when you bitched about this the first dozen times many Canadians said they found it less then for what you paid, so you really need to quit using this as a bitching point. Plus Popmart had more bonus features, so I'm not sure what drugs you are on.

Both these releases could have had entire extra concerts as a second or third disc (we'd have paid extra for that); instead we get a few songs and U2 will cash in later.

Why would ANYONE expect another full concert as a bonus to a concert film? That's absurd.

Same thing with the Milan DVD, which was unnecessarily cut down. Who doesn't think the Vertigo 2nd disc was a joke? And so it goes.

I paid 6 dollars more for the deluxe edition. 6 dollars for a 10 song DVD, oh noes I got ripped off.

Simply put, if they are jokes, don't buy them.

 

[theFly51]

IAM TYPING WITH MY NIPPLES!!!!!!!!!

 

[t8thgr8]

this thread got me wanting to listen to boy, so i put the cd on in my car and it really doesnt sound like it needs remastering, everything is crystal clear. I dont see what theyre trying to improve upon. october and war sound like shit though.

 

[t8thgr8]

Am i the only person who would prefer Sydney 89 to Point Depot Dec 31st? These Sydney shows are IMO some of the best they ever played...

Normally I'd be a bit put off by all this remaster stuff but because there is so little promotion it does feel like it is accepted that these releases are just for hardcore fans and I kinda like that...

The remaster I want more than anything is TUF... Don't care about bonus anything, just want that album remastered...

why not just download a gold mfsl copy? the one im waiting for is achtung

 

[Roland of Gilead]

AB needs a remaster asap. I love Acrobat, but the sound coming out of my Bose is shit.

 

[t8thgr8]

might be the bose...

 

[Muldfeld]

They have no control over the pricing in Canada, even when you bitched about this the first dozen times many Canadians said they found it less then for what you paid, so you really need to quit using this as a bitching point. Plus Popmart had more bonus features, so I'm not sure what drugs you are on.

Why would ANYONE expect another full concert as a bonus to a concert film? That's absurd.

I paid 6 dollars more for the deluxe edition. 6 dollars for a 10 song DVD, oh noes I got ripped off.

Simply put, if they are jokes, don't buy them.

I'm getting really tired of your constantly rude attitude.

Most people have to go to chains like HMV. The deluxe Zoo TV sold for $26 when it came out. Popmart sold for $39. Amazon.ca sold it for that price and then raised it to $44; HMV now sells it for $53. They wouldn't have these kinds of prices if U2 and Universal weren't asking for a substantially higher profit margin.

Also, Popmart doesn't contain more than Zoo TV; the 2nd discs of both leave much to be desired, but the easter egg on Zoo TV had a lot more than that weird music video for Popmart. The bottom line is that U2 chose to not release the full concert footage evidenced from the bonus discs and just tease us with a few songs from them.

And I've read many fans comment on how they'd love another concert; not just remastered stuff being charged the same price or more than newly filmed stuff like Vertigo; it's not the same production costs, since U2 already reaped massive profits from pay-per-view in the '90s for Zoo TV and Popmart.

Also, there were so many more useful bonuses that could have been included like actual lengthy interviews, like the K-Mart performance and interview, etc. Stuff that's not easy to get. That would have made these sets a lot more valuable; U2 did a lazy job.

Finally, the U2 hits collection was undesirable to most fans who already have the albums and first 2 hits albums. They only encouragement was the DVD and U2 weren't willing to put the full concert for some mysterious reason, especially since the Vertigo performances were subpar for that tour.

I don't mind commercialism as long as it's real quality.

 

[BVS]

I'm getting really tired of your constantly rude attitude.

I get tired of completely false statements that you constantly try to pass off as facts.

Most people have to go to chains like HMV. The deluxe Zoo TV sold for $26 when it came out. Popmart sold for $39. Amazon.ca sold it for that price and then raised it to $44; HMV now sells it for $53. They wouldn't have these kinds of prices if U2 and Universal weren't asking for a substantially higher profit margin.

See, this is completely false. First of all many told you in here where prices were much lower, secondly it's the market that set the price. You can't sell a 10 song DVD at a higher price just because you want to, it will sell for what the market sets, bonus material will add to that cost but it still is judged by market.

Also, Popmart doesn't contain more than Zoo TV; the 2nd discs of both leave much to be desired, but the easter egg on Zoo TV had a lot more than that weird music video for Popmart. The bottom line is that U2 chose to not release the full concert footage evidenced from the bonus discs and just tease us with a few songs from them.

ZooTV Bonus Tracks
"Tryin' to Throw Your Arms Around the World" and "Desire" — taken live from the Zoo TV Special, Yankee Stadium, New York, August 29 and 30, 1992
"The Fly" and "Even Better than the Real Thing" — taken live from the "Stop Sellafield" Concert, G-Mex Centre, Manchester, June 19, 1992
Documentaries
A Fistful of ZooTV
ZooTV – The Inside Story
Trabantland
Extras
Video Confessional
"Numb" karaoke video remix



Popmart Bonus Tracks:
"Please," "Where the Streets Have No Name," "Discothèque" and "If You Wear That Velvet Dress" — taken live from Feyenoord Stadium, Rotterdam, July 18, 1997
"Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me," "Mysterious Ways" and "One" — taken live from Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton, June 14, 1997
Bonus Music Videos
"Staring at the Sun" (Miami Version)
Directed by Morleigh Steinberg
"Last Night on Earth - First Night in Hell" (Remix Version)
Directed by John Bland
Documentaries
Lemon For Sale
The Road To Sarajevo
A Tour of the Tour
Last Night on Earth - One Day in Kansas
PopMart Tour Visuals Montage
Curated by Catherine Owens

*Taken directly from packaging.

Popmart has videos, more extra live songs, one extra documentary...

And I've read many fans comment on how they'd love another concert; not just remastered stuff being charged the same price or more than newly filmed stuff like Vertigo; it's not the same production costs, since U2 already reaped massive profits from pay-per-view in the '90s for Zoo TV and Popmart.

Popmart was pay-per-view? I saw it on Showtime. But who cares?

I said, why would anyone 'expect' another whole concert? Who puts a whole other concert as a bonus to a concert video?

Also, there were so many more useful bonuses that could have been included like actual lengthy interviews, like the K-Mart performance and interview, etc. Stuff that's not easy to get. That would have made these sets a lot more valuable; U2 did a lazy job.

This is when you just get selfish. Yes, there's probably 24 hours worth of stuff they could put on as bonus material, but you're missing the point of bonus material. Who puts all of this stuff that you are talking about as bonus material?

Finally, the U2 hits collection was undesirable to most fans who already have the albums and first 2 hits albums. They only encouragement was the DVD and U2 weren't willing to put the full concert for some mysterious reason, especially since the Vertigo performances were subpar for that tour.

I don't mind commercialism as long as it's real quality.

Mine was quality, I got 2 new songs and a 10 song live DVD for the price of $16.00.

 

[U2FanPeter]

I bought Popmart in at a major retail store in Canada for $26.99 a week or two after release.

I've also seen the stupidly high prices.

 

[BVS]

I bought Popmart in at a major retail store in Canada for $26.99 a week or two after release.

I've also seen the stupidly high prices.

But that's U2's fault.

 

[U2FanPeter]

I bought Popmart double DVD at Future Shop for $32.99 at Future Shop - a national chain in Canada. 3 weeks after it came out.

If the label has "rented" endcap shelf space or designated space in the weekly flyer they would have some pricing control. Everything else the store can decide whether to be profitable or competitive. Remember Trent Reznor's rant about pricing in Australia?

If you want it cheap, then buy it online. Are you new to the internet?

u2fp

 

[BVS]

Wait, you bought it twice?

 

[U2FanPeter]

I checked the price sticker tucked inside.

Zootv I bought for $26 and Popmart I got for $32.

 

[An Cat Gav]

Am i the only person who would prefer Sydney 89 to Point Depot Dec 31st? These Sydney shows are IMO some of the best they ever played...

Normally I'd be a bit put off by all this remaster stuff but because there is so little promotion it does feel like it is accepted that these releases are just for hardcore fans and I kinda like that...

The remaster I want more than anything is TUF... Don't care about bonus anything, just want that album remastered...

No you're not, The Australasian leg of the Lovetown tour was immense. I went to a couple of the european leg gigs and though they were great, the Aussie gigs surpased them.