Bono's voice at Cannes

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The_Edge89 said:

Besides, I can't see Edge's floorboard that controls his sound? It is possible that Dallas took care of that though.

He doesn't need the full floorboard for two songs. Right before Vertigo, you can see Dallas press an effect pedal after handing Edge the guitar. There are also effects behind Edge's amp, and Dallas goes there briefly during Streets.
 
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ntalwar said:


He doesn't need the full floorboard for two songs. Right before Vertigo, you can see Dallas press an effect pedal after handing Edge the guitar. There are also effects behind Edge's amp, and Dallas goes there briefly during Streets.

Thank you, didn't notice that.
Does anyone know what other songs were planned?
I guess One (from Bono's Gretsch) but what about the Explorer being present?
 
ntalwar said:
There was probably an extra guitar track at some points, but Edge wasn't playing air guitar during the songs. And how about the guitar check and stray guitar note at the start of Vertigo? The tones sound slightly different from the Fender tones anyway. Snowy White does a pretty good job on a Les Paul of replicating David Gilmour's Fender sound live(on Roger Waters' tour).

Well, they used the intrumental studio version just like they did on Totp, Cduk and Tokyo roof.
 
The_Edge89 said:


Thank you, didn't notice that.
Does anyone know what other songs were planned?
I guess One (from Bono's Gretsch) but what about the Explorer being present?

I think that Explorer was for Beautiful Day
 
Peterrrrr said:

Well, they used the intrumental studio version just like they did on Totp, Cduk and Tokyo roof.

The Tokyo roof was pre-recorded because it was a TV video. I'm not familiar with the others. This sounds a bit different at parts, and probably there is an extra guitar track in some places.
The following have have not been explained by doubters:
- Dallas steps on an effect pedal before Vertigo.
- Edge clearly plays a few chords prior to Vertigo to check the sound (through the amp).
- Edge plays a stray note just before the first Vertigo chord.
- Edge uses in-ear monitors.
 
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JCOSTER said:
From the POP era:

Bono:
We wanted to make a sexy, groovey song. And we nearly did. The truth is, I was in a bit of trouble. At first, I thought it might have been the smokes. Rather stupidly in my early thirties, I'd gone from smoking cigars on ZOOTV into smoking camel cigarettes. But I don't think it was just that. I think I had damaged my voice.

Bono:
You've been fighting with all kinds of fears just to get on stage sometimes. You just don't think you have it in you to hit those hight notes, to visit the places you need to for the songs to come alive.

Elevation Era:
Bono:
My voice problems hadn't gotten any better. There was swelling on my vocal cords, which was not a nodule, and wouldn't go away. I had been seeing specialists but there was some uncertainty about what it was. It was suggested that it was my lifestyle, the smokes, drinking too much, on the phone all the time, never going to bed. I was trying to make changes but it was difficult.............But my voice was not strong, and I knew it. Dr.????? a very gifted ear, nose, throat surgeon, said, "Look, we're going to have to take this seriously. I want to put you out. And when I get down and can really have a good look at this, if I am worried, I need your permission to do the biopsy. I said, biopsy? Isn't that what you give people when you think they have cancer?

I said no way, I can't do it. He said, I just want to go in and have a look with a microscope, I will know within 90 % certainty if it is a cancer. But if I see that, you have to let me operate. So I finally agreed. I didn't tell anyone, not Ali, didn't tell the band, I just went through it on my own. :( .......................So, I went in to the operating theatre, lay down and they put me out. Next thing I know, I'm half conscious, groggy, and the good doctor comes into view and says, I'll be back in an hurry when you wake up. I just grabbed his arm and shook it, he said your ok your fine!

You know, I couldn't even stand reading this part when I first got the book. I closed the book, went out, then came back, read a few lines, then closed the book, went out again.

Probably because I came from a different culture background, and I really couldn't understand why these people around him could have no idea what he went through and left him alone. Because for me, it's breach of duty, as a friend, or as a family member. :shrug:
 
^ I can understand not wanting people to know until you know and its easy to keep it a secret....its also very anguishing too. When I read that I did feel very bad that he had chose to go through it alone. :(
 
I don't know. For me it's normal that one of my friend or my family member rose an eye brow and I'd know exactly what they want and if the are hiding something from me. If they don't want to tell me, fine. But I'd start investigation if I sensed anything abnormal.

One of my friend has been criticize Ali to death for Bono's fashion disaster. So I said it might be a cultural thing.

But I think Bono would have know that been putting out is a very dangerous thing, even in a fully facilitied hospital, in the hand of an expert. Something might go wrong, and if it did, the risk is losing life. No kidding.:|
 
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ntalwar said:


The Tokyo roof was pre-recorded because it was a TV video. I'm not familiar with the others. This sounds a bit different at parts, and probably there is an extra guitar track in some places.
The following have have not been explained by doubters:
- Dallas steps on an effect pedal before Vertigo.
- Edge clearly plays a few chords prior to Vertigo to check the sound (through the amp).
- Edge plays a stray note just before the first Vertigo chord.
- Edge uses in-ear monitors.

They where adding sounds over that intrumental playback music.
 
Did anyone else notice that Streets started out with just Edge ie no strings etc? I think that is a first! I don't think they've ever publicly played it that way!

Then a track started that wasn't anything close to what happens when they are on tour - mind you, if you're in the know you know that the strings and midi bassline in Streets has always been played live under the stage (EDIT TO ADD: well not the bass always...Adam used to have those pedals during the JT tour at least :drool:) .....maybe they should have gotten one of the tribute bands to give them a copy of their backing tracks to use! :lol:

As for Edge's guitar, he could use pretty much any guitar and get a fairly close approximation of the sound...the nuances / differences between the two wouldn't be detectable on a youtube video anyways, imo..

As for Bono's voice - meh, he was partying pretty hard, from what I hear...I don't think it was meant to be anything more than a fun treat..I really don't think it's indicitive of vocal problems or even what he might sound like if they went back on tour, not really.
 
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gabrielvox said:
Then a track started that wasn't anything close to what happens when they are on tour - mind you, if you're in the know you know that the strings and midi bassline in Streets has always been played live under the stage.....maybe they should have gotten one of the tribute bands to give them a copy of their backing tracks to use! :lol:

Terry pretty much plays any effects, keyboards, sequencers, extra guitar, etc.. under the stage and has for quite some time (incl. Streets). Its pretty well known. I dont think its an in the "know" thing though. Its just known. :wink:
 
I definitely didn't mean to say that knowledge was an elite thing, don't forget we're not 'average' U2 listeners :wink:.

But plenty of people out there don't know that, believe me! lol

Terry doesn't actually play everything, though. On the last tour most if not all sequences were triggered by Edge from what most with a keen eye noticed...and there are quite a few songs that actually used sequenced tracks/loops, including those with extra guitar...Streets just isn't one of them. it's live from under the stage as you say...
 
gabrielvox said:
Did anyone else notice that Streets started out with just Edge ie no strings etc? I think that is a first! I don't think they've ever publicly played it that way!

Actually when Bono is saying Merci, he is talking over a synth for about 10 seconds before Edge starts playing.
 
ntalwar said:


Actually when Bono is saying Merci, he is talking over a synth for about 10 seconds before Edge starts playing.

Ok scratch what I said, you're right, I completely missed that! Duh! :mad:

The midi bass is different tho, (to me anyways) unless it's just how it was being amplified...I wonder tho, was it a track...or was Terry hiding out somewhere off stage? :wink:
 
This is a rock band...vocals shouldnt be perfect....as much as Bono wants to be an opera singer he wont ever be one...and even opera singers have off nights....considering this was the first performance in many months I didnt find it to be that bad...but I expected this thread to come up as well.
 
Blue Room said:


Terry pretty much plays any effects, keyboards, sequencers, extra guitar, etc.. under the stage and has for quite some time (incl. Streets). Its pretty well known. I dont think its an in the "know" thing though. Its just known. :wink:


Was that Terry in the background during the performance?



As for the voice, I don't think he sounded terribly worse than the has now and then in the last two years. Blue Room and others all pointed out excellent reasons why he'd be a bit scratchy. Also, even though he's hit it so many times before, that second "feel" is a bitch of a note.
 
I'm pretty darn sure a track is being used

watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYhwqA3dFXs

at about 1:20, the guy everyone thinks is Terry, and who some have said was "playing the synth". clearly steps away from whatever it was he was manning, and the midi bass synth is still going thru chord changes...therefore, he's not playing it

My initial thought was that he was running the mixing board. I'm stickin with that theory until I see proof otherwise :up:

EDIT: WATCH THIS VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brmlb3ivtqU

enlarge your screen, go to 4:30...from there onward...that is a mixing board, hands down, not a synth. And he's not doing anything while the midi is playing, other than adjusting sliders
 
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The_Edge89 said:
Ok, I take back my opinion about the playback, you can clearly (yet briefly) see the floorboard in this one, and the sound is much better too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYhwqA3dFXs

And in this other video, you can see Dallas adjusting Edge's floor effects and amp eq after Vertigo and before Streets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxNVMREtop4

Dallas also triggers the lead guitar behind Adam's area after "no one gets hurt". The lead guitar of Vertigo is the only guitar part I think was pre-recorded - Edge is playing bar chords while we hear lead.
 
Regarding Vertigo...Larry and Bono are live; Adam and Edge are not. The guitar and bass tracks are the same ones featured on the album, and if you listen to them back to back you will notice they sound exactly the same. Plus Adam's fretting doesn't always match the sound, which also happened with the HTDAAB promo tour performances where they used the backing tracks.
 
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