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Have these two ever done a song togather and if so what song !!! 
are Bono and Bob friends??
are Bono and Bob friends??
Bob Dylan & U2??
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LCK
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All Along the Watchtower is a Dylan song. (lol, I'm pretty sure, even a broken clock is right twice a day) And Bono admired Dylan pre-U2 and apparently the two got on great when meeting etc. At the first Toronto Elevation concert, Bono paid tribute to Dylan's 60th birthday.
~*Buffalo*~
War Child
Wasn't "Love Rescue Me" co-written by Dylan? And he possibly sang backing vocals on that as well.
martha
Blue Crack Supplier
Yes, Dylan and Bono wrote the song and sang on it together. And yes, Watchtower was a Dylan song even before Jimi got his hands on it.
jick
Refugee
rythemwire said:Have these two ever done a song togather and if so what song !!!
Yes the few songs they have done together, Bob only plays second fiddle (like backing vocals, organ). U2 have played quite a few Dylan songs - All Along The Watchtower, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Times A Changing, Maggie's Farm, I Shall Be Released ....and in all cases they have made their versions better than Dylan's. Many U2 fans actually consider it blasphemy to mention U2 and Bob Dylan in the same sentence because ever since the Johsua Tree, U2 had gone on to exceed Dylan in songwriting capability, in popularity and in influence. It is not sure whether Bono and Bob are "friends" in the strict sense of the word, as most indication point that they have only had a professional relationship together. If I remember right, a mediocre Bob Dylan album once robbed U2's POP of a deserving Grammy. While their friendship is not a certainty, it sure is a certainty that Bob Dylan is a big fan of Bono and U2.
Cheers,
J
jick
Refugee
Re: Re: Re: Bob Dylan & U2??
I have stated many times, POP looks pale when compared to other U2 albums, but POP was still the best album of its era, easily better songwriting than the derivative OK Computer or Bob Dylan's rehash trash Time Out Of Mind. But if you compare POP to masterpieces like JT, AB, or ATYCLB - that is only when the discrepancy comes out.
Cheers,
J
Axver said:
I have stated many times, POP looks pale when compared to other U2 albums, but POP was still the best album of its era, easily better songwriting than the derivative OK Computer or Bob Dylan's rehash trash Time Out Of Mind. But if you compare POP to masterpieces like JT, AB, or ATYCLB - that is only when the discrepancy comes out.
Cheers,
J
drumkeeran
War Child
OK...trying to calm myself down, BUT to start comparing careers and songwriting capabilities seems quite foolish when writing of Dylan and U2.
They are both legends and to be civil I think I'll leave it at that!!!
They are both legends and to be civil I think I'll leave it at that!!!
Vox02
War Child
Bob Dylan joined U2 on stage in Los Angeles ( Sports Arena, April 20, 1987 ). And Bono sing with him in 1984.
Vox
Vox
david
ONE love, blood, life
Bob and Bono's name both start with a "B" and they both play harmonica very well.
~*Buffalo*~
War Child
david said:
And that has something to do with them being friends because ... why exactly?
Leeloo
War Child
I heard that Bob Dylan no longer speaks to Bono. He used to be friends with him, but apparently Bono talked too much and revealed things Dylan had told him in secret to others, Dylan got mad at him for being a blabbermouth and they haven't spoken since. If that's true, I pity Bono, because I've had people get mad at me for the same thing. Sigh, you just never know what someone will get touchy about! I'm sure if Dylan had told him not to tell it, he wouldn't have.
I don't know about them being friends, but both in their own right are legends, I wouldn't necessarily say anyone is better than the other (if only because I don't know Dylan's music well enough and I don't think I can objectively talk, as a U2 fan). While it's true U2 exceeded Dylan in sheer popularity and sales/tours success, I'm not sure they did in infuencing others and songwriting (with all due respect to Bono) skills.
Definitely U2 (Bono) is a fan of Dylan, because they contacted him to collaborate on their album and I think Bono often mentions Dylan as one of his heroes/influences. I'm guessing since he said yes, Dylan at least likes U2 (Bono), if he's not a big fan.
If Leeloo is right, then I would also say if Dylan didn't want certain things to get out, he shouldn't have shared them in the first place! It was never a secret Bono talks a lot. (I don't know if he would spill something confidential though...)
Definitely U2 (Bono) is a fan of Dylan, because they contacted him to collaborate on their album and I think Bono often mentions Dylan as one of his heroes/influences. I'm guessing since he said yes, Dylan at least likes U2 (Bono), if he's not a big fan.
If Leeloo is right, then I would also say if Dylan didn't want certain things to get out, he shouldn't have shared them in the first place! It was never a secret Bono talks a lot. (I don't know if he would spill something confidential though...)
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pepokiss
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david said:
well yeah...
because, as we (U2 fans) all know, Bono's real name is... well... Bono...
jick
Refugee
Enough of this thread. Let's end this now. It is great blashpmeny to mention Bono with that old fart in the same sentence. He's a has-been who was been over-the-hill for the past three decades - this ain't the 70's anymore. Dylan has long overdued his welcome while U2 are still beginning to hit their second stride and second lease on life (thanks to the brilliant ATYCLB).
Cheers,
J
Cheers,
J
martha
Blue Crack Supplier
pepokiss said:
well yeah...
because, as we (U2 fans) all know, Bono's real name is... well... Bono...
And Dylan's real name is Zimmerman.
martha
Blue Crack Supplier
jick said:
You don't quite have the way with words the Old Fart has, do you?
Leeloo
War Child
I think Jick writes very well especially considering English is not his native language. So go easy on the guy, Miss Martha, I mean, teach!
martha
Blue Crack Supplier
Ok, ok. I was mean. But jick sets himself up so well. He just hands me straight lines and set-ups.
Sometimes I just can't resist.
Sometimes I just can't resist.
Popmartijn
Blue Crack Supplier
Hello
His comments were indeed not Dylanesque. Having heard Dylan live a few months ago I can certainly say, language issues or not, that jick's comments are way off. It's a blasphemy to speak about Dylan like that!
Marty
His comments were indeed not Dylanesque. Having heard Dylan live a few months ago I can certainly say, language issues or not, that jick's comments are way off. It's a blasphemy to speak about Dylan like that!
Marty
drumkeeran
War Child
jick's opinion shows a lack of musical intelligence 
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Bob Dylan
Ok Jick,
DO NOT EVER TALK ABOUT DYLAN BADLY.
Seriously,Dylan has changed the way music is and was made.He has influenced Rap,"homesick blues" Rock,"like a rolling stone" Folk,''blowin in the wind'' ,Blues,"Tomstone blues" and gospel, "every grain of sand". He is the one of the very few best lyricist of all time. His influncece is all over music and always will be.
For God's sake, he changed the way people think on some levels.
Dylan=
Ok Jick,
DO NOT EVER TALK ABOUT DYLAN BADLY.
Seriously,Dylan has changed the way music is and was made.He has influenced Rap,"homesick blues" Rock,"like a rolling stone" Folk,''blowin in the wind'' ,Blues,"Tomstone blues" and gospel, "every grain of sand". He is the one of the very few best lyricist of all time. His influncece is all over music and always will be.
For God's sake, he changed the way people think on some levels.
Dylan=
drumkeeran
War Child
jick
Refugee
Re: Bob Dylan
And just when were those songs written? I meant to say Dylan is a has-been and has not been a factor in the music biz the past couple of decades.
Cheers,
J
rythemwire said:Ok Jick,
DO NOT EVER TALK ABOUT DYLAN BADLY.
Seriously,Dylan has changed the way music is and was made.He has influenced Rap,"homesick blues" Rock,"like a rolling stone" Folk,''blowin in the wind'' ,Blues,"Tomstone blues" and gospel, "every grain of sand". He is the one of the very few best lyricist of all time. His influncece is all over music and always will be.
For God's sake, he changed the way people think on some levels.
Dylan=
And just when were those songs written? I meant to say Dylan is a has-been and has not been a factor in the music biz the past couple of decades.
Cheers,
J
Liesje
Blue Crack Addict
Re: Re: Bob Dylan
He's been a factor to me and I'm only 19
jick said:
He's been a factor to me and I'm only 19
jick
Refugee
Re: Re: Re: Bob Dylan
Yes he has, thanks to his older songs - not the recent ones.
Cheers,
J
LivLuvAndBootlegMusic said:
He's been a factor to me and I'm only 19
Yes he has, thanks to his older songs - not the recent ones.
Cheers,
J
Liesje
Blue Crack Addict
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bob Dylan
Speak for yourself from now on, ok? I don't care if we never agree on anything, but please don't ever presume to know what I like or not and whether or not it has influenced me.
jick said:
Speak for yourself from now on, ok? I don't care if we never agree on anything, but please don't ever presume to know what I like or not and whether or not it has influenced me.
Popmartijn
Blue Crack Supplier
I used to care
But things have changed
But things have changed
Leeloo
War Child
A lot of older stars aren't important on the current music scene but still influence young fans every day. I think that's what J means, that he hasn't been important ON THE CURRENT MUSIC SCENE in the last 25 years, or more. But he is a legend.
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