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Old 06-09-2007, 01:25 PM   #1
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Bands with Awesome B Sides

B sides are hit or miss really, and there aren't that many bands that have really stellar b sides that incite debate amongst fans on whether they should have been included on the albums proper.

Amongst the best bands for b sides, I would say

U2
Radiohead
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Smashing Pumpkins
Garbage
Coldplay

there are others, but there are also bands who don't even bother or put out bsides they know are crap.

Thanks to my favorite band for being the one band I know I can trust for stellar B Sides.

(before I get flamed, I realize not all of these are "B SIDES" but rather "non album tracks". so sue me if I have a general term for all U2 songs the Rolling Stone critics haven't written about.

A Celebration
Love Comes Tumbling
The Three Sunrises
Lady With The Spinning Head
North And South Of The River
I'm Not Your Baby
Mercy
Smile

Its nice to have a band who.... when you really start to get into them, you have all their albums to look forward to hearing and collecting, and then, when you have heard and own them all, there is still a massive amount of material still to hear. I remember the point when I had finally acquired all the U2 albums (up to Pop) and then discovered a website with their discography, and man was I excited.

It sure beats being a die hard Rage Against The Machine fan. I think they have 3 nonalbum tracks total.
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a celebration is a single, not a b side... and mercy has never been released... it's a no-side.

as for band with best b-sides? pearl jam... they have so many that they released a two disc collection of nothing but B-sides... u2 didn't even have enough b-sides to fill a second greatest hits disc and had to fill it with endless crappy remixes.
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u2 didn't even have enough b-sides to fill a second greatest hits disc and had to fill it with endless crappy remixes.
False. I once made a 90's b-side collection and it couldn't even fit on one disc. The people who compiled that collection are imbeciles, that's all.
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I can't believe clawgrabber still got flamed
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All the b-sides is another reason that being a u2 fan is so easy.

you're blue room

north and south

slow dancing

two shots of happy

a bunch of joshua tree era b-sides I can't think of

ARE YOU GONNA WAIT FOREVER? (are you kidding me? I would have taken that song over several ones that made it on HTDAAB)

someone flame me.
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The best B-Side band that I have come across is Oasis. The Masterplan compilation alone is superior to any album that they have created since What's the Story.
Another thing to keep in mind is that prolificacy does not always correlate with quality (Ryan Adams).
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a celebration is a single, not a b side... and mercy has never been released... it's a no-side.
yeah, I’m aware of that. And it’s a safe bet that most everyone else here is also privy. note the part of my first post when I addressed this already:

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(before I get flamed, I realize not all of these are "B SIDES" but rather "non album tracks". so sue me if I have a general term for all U2 songs the Rolling Stone critics haven't written about.
Thanks for the not-so-needed correction though.

And LemonMelon is right on the money here. To say U2 didn't have enough b-sides to fill the second disc of the best of is insane. We all know that album was woefully executed from the get go, and the decision to have half the second disc be b-sides and half be remixes doesn't prove anything.

That disc could have just as easily been:

Night And Day
Alex Decends...
Where Did It All Go Wrong
Salome
Lady With The Spinning Head
Satellite Of Love
Paint It Black
Fortunate Son
Can't Help Falling In Love (Triple Peaks Mix)
Slow Dancing (From Stay Single)
Your Blue Room
Holy Joe
North And South Of The River
I'm Not Your Baby
Two Shots Of Happy
Pop Muzik
Happiness Is A Warm Gun
Slow Dancing (w/ Willie Nelson)

That’s 18 tracks from the second decade of their career. Lost Dogs was what? A disc of 16 and a disc of 14 from their entire 12 year career? U2 could have easily omitted the remixes and included a full disc of b sides.

In fact, since they included Your Blue Room, they could have just as easily included
Always Forever Now
Slug
Beach Sequence

That’s up to 21 songs (and no live tracks…)


Getting into semantics over the term B-SIDE is ridiculous anyway now that vinyl is rare, and singles almost don't exist.

Lost Dogs isn't all B-sides either. There are unreleased songs and outtakes, and tracks from compilations and soundtracks on there too.

“B-Sides” is a useful term. And I will continue slapping Mercy and A Celebration on my B-Sides compilations for my friends and referring to them as such. Because essentially that is really what they are.

All that said, there is some great stuff on Lost Dogs, Yellow Ledbetter is certainly a classic (And really shouldn’t be buried here with lesser works) Dead Man is also an amazing track. But it certainly isn’t all great material, and the fact that there are 2 discs just says that Pearl Jam is more giving when it comes to releasing tracks from the vault.

I wish U2 would do the same, but the bastards like to sit on a song for a decade and rework it until it becomes something else. Someone clever on here said that someday when the plane crashes or the Popmart screen explodes, and the band is rocking in the next realm, we are destined to find ourselves with one hell of a box set of unreleased tracks, Nirvana-Style.

I suppose I can’t exactly say I hope that happens, because that would be the final notes we ever heard from the band. I just wish they’d do a more exhaustive release along the lines of the Unreleased & Rare “disc” from the iTunes boxset. That was great stuff, but I wanted more.

I’m sure we all do.
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Getting into semantics over the term B-SIDE is ridiculous anyway now that vinyl is rare, and singles almost don't exist.
Good point. For me, a b-side is any song not on an album, greatest hits, or soundtrack. This means that Hold Me, Thrill Me is not a b-side, but Love Comes Tumbling is.
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B-side is included on a single, in other words. For me a B-side is also original U2 material, not covers, collaborations or live material they have put on their singles in the past.
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Good point. For me, a b-side is any song not on an album, greatest hits, or soundtrack. This means that Hold Me, Thrill Me is not a b-side, but Love Comes Tumbling is.
Ditto here. It is easier than getting all caught up. Some could argue Love Comes isn't a b-side just because it ended up on Wide Awake, but i say "Blah blah blah"

And I ALWAYS put HMTMKMKM on my 90s bsides disc, even though I know it was a single, because it fits well with the other songs, it puts the song in a album length context, and it is nice when you are one of my friends who is forced to listen to a b sides compilation to hear a song you know already.

(usually the reaction HMTMKMKM gets is "THIS IS U2?!")

There are also the cases like Yellow Ledbetter or Soul To Squeeze (Chili Peppers) when a b side ends up becoming a hit, (or in Soul To Squeeze's case, an actual single)...

Then what? I still refer to both of those as B Sides, even thou STS was on the Chili pepp's greatest hits, and if Pearl Jam ever released a Best Of (they won't) Yellow Led would be a required track. (since it got way more airplay than later singles like Nothing As It Seems and Love Boat Captain)

I have always heard that Oasis has some really amazing B Sides and that the reason they are so huge in the UK is that those songs recieved as much attention as the album tracks and singles, whereas in the US, some of these tracks are difficult to find. One critic said that for the most part the US has only been exposed to about 60 percent of what makes Oasis great. Maybe I should check out this MASTERPLAN cd
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I have always heard that Oasis has some really amazing B Sides and that the reason they are so huge in the UK is that those songs recieved as much attention as the album tracks and singles, whereas in the US, some of these tracks are difficult to find. One critic said that for the most part the US has only been exposed to about 60 percent of what makes Oasis great. Maybe I should check out this MASTERPLAN cd
You definitely should buy the Masterplan. I believe everybody should own it. I have a cousin who could never understand why I was such a big Oasis fan. All he knew was that they had 2 good albums in the mid 90s and then started making shitty albums. I burnt him a copy of the Masterplan, and now he is a fan. Songs like "Half the world away", "Talk Tonight" and "The Masterplan" make it worth the purcahse alone.
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no one was "flaming" anyone... i appologize for misreading that part.

u2's my favorite band, pearl jam's #2... however i don't think it's even remotely a comparison between the B-sides of the two, and that U2's B-sides pale in comparison to pearl jam's.

that's not a flame, that's my opinion.
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For me a B-side is also original U2 material, not covers, collaborations or live material they have put on their singles in the past.
Well that doesn't make any sense, that eliminates a big portion of U2's b-sides...

The term b-side comes from when music was released on vinyl. The single was on the a-side, and a "bonus" song was on the b-side.

Since true singles will soon be completely eliminated the concept of the b-side will soon disappear...
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LEVITATE!!! Better than most of their A sides.
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In fact, since they included Your Blue Room, they could have just as easily included
Always Forever Now
Slug
Beach Sequence
Not really Your Blue Room's only on the B-sides disc because it was used as a B-side (as U2) on 'Staring at the Sun' rather than U2 just taking an album track from 'Original Soundtracks 1'...

and Pop Pius V - High five if i may!!
"Are You Gonna Wait Forever" is such a great track, I was just saying the other day I would have put than in place of quite a few of the songs on 'HTDAAB'

I'm a bit puzzled over why there's such a mass debate over what makes a 'B-Side', to be honest... To me it's a track from a single that's not the lead track...simple as that.
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I think U2 was a great b-sides band in the eighties, especially in the UF/JT era, but ever since they discovered remixes, things have really gone to crap. The last ten years in particular have been especially awful in b-side land. I find this somewhat confusing as the iTunes Complete U2 rarities collection showed they had unused tracks that could have appeared as b-sides.

As far as favourite b-side bands go, I think The Chills, Porcupine Tree, and Pure Reason Revolution are all far better than U2 currently are. I suppose that has something to do with the fact they actually have real songs on their singles rather than dodgy remixes.
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