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Old 02-11-2005, 12:59 AM   #1
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A line from OOTS.

I've seen a lot of quotes from OOTS that mention the following:

Some things you shouldn't get too good at/Like smiling, crying, and celebrity

However, I think that's wrong. I was listening to the song earlier, and focused on the lyrics for the first time in ages, and maybe it's been noted before, but rather than Bono simply enunciating badly and skipping the 'b' of 'celebrity', he's actually singing:

Some things you shouldn't get too good at/Like smiling, crining, and celerity

I just listened to the bootleg from the Brooklyn Bridge show and Bono sounds to definitely say 'celerity' rather than 'celebrity', despite what I see quoted regularly. 'Celerity' is defined as being swiftness, quickness, rapidity of movement. I think it makes more sense in the context of the song than 'celebrity'.

Has this already been noted and I'm just thinking of out-of-date quotes? Or am I going mad?
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from U2.com :

Some things you shouldn’t get too good at
Like smiling, crying and celebrity

I never doubted that, of course I have been wrong on lyrics before.

Also, that is probably the worst line on the album. Like anyone can relate to being a celebrity.
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I never thought it sounded much like "celebrity," but it makes more sense than "celerity" (and sounds like the kind of stupid thing Bono would come up with). Can you explain how "celerity" fits?

I think the lyrics in the album liner notes and on the web site were probably transcribed by goof-offs at the record company, so they're not necessarily authoritative.
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well, I understand that, but how fucking obtuse is celerity?

probably right up Bono's alley to use that, but I don't think he did.

celerity:: rapidity of motion or action

how does it mean to "not get too get at being swift"?
It doesn't make any sense.

Occams razor: it's celebrity and it's still a bad lyric. Sorry Bono.
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I never thought it sounded much like "celebrity," but it makes more sense than "celerity" (and sounds like the kind of stupid thing Bono would come up with). Can you explain how "celerity" fits?
I really don't get it if it's 'celebrity'. "Some things you shouldn't get too good at, like ... celebrity" inspires a WTF? reaction. Is celebrity even something you can be good or bad at? It's a status, not an action like smiling, crying, or celerity. However, as 'celerity', I think it makes sense - you shouldn't get too good at rushing to and fro in a swift manner (fast paced, fake, demanding society and such), or something like that. I haven't really analysed the song, but 'celerity' definitely seems to fit more. And Bono doesn't sing a 'b'.

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I think the lyrics in the album liner notes and on the web site were probably transcribed by goof-offs at the record company, so they're not necessarily authoritative.
Agreed there. We've seen some terrible lyrics released before.
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Re: A line from OOTS.

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Or am I going mad?



To answer seriously, I definitely hear a "b" in that word. To me, not getting too good at crying (ok, maybe that one makes sense) and smiling (what's so bad about being good at smiles? does he mean one should not be good at fake emotions with these two examples?) makes less sense than celebrity (this word is IMO Bono poking fun at the rock star cliche image, something he obviusly isn't good at)
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I always sing "like reading, writing, and arithmetic" when I hear "like smiling, crying, and celebrity".

Is that bad? I'm not anti-education at all.
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The only thing that bothers me about this song is the lyrics. Is this song supposed to be about Edge's daughter? Then why have we got references to oral sex in there??? The line "And I kneel, cos I want you some more" is that not a reference to oral sex? Sounds a bit pervy to me!
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And we all know ISHFWILF is a reference to sexual frustration, right?
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And we all know ISHFWILF is a reference to sexual frustration, right?
Well yes, I always thought so.
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The only thing that bothers me about this song is the lyrics. Is this song supposed to be about Edge's daughter? Then why have we got references to oral sex in there??? The line "And I kneel, cos I want you some more" is that not a reference to oral sex? Sounds a bit pervy to me!

Well, AB was full of oral sex allusions/metaphors, so it would fit with Bono's, er, enthusiasm for the activity.
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I would guess that by "kneeling" Bono means praying/hoping for the best for Edge's daughter.
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I think "celebrity" makes perfect sense.
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Well, AB was full of oral sex allusions/metaphors, so it would fit with Bono's, er, enthusiasm for the activity.
Yeah but if he's singing about Edge's daughter, I mean sounds a bit dodgy to me. I suppose Bono is using the kneeling term in this song in a completely different context than he did on Achtung Baby, errrr well I would hope so anyway!
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I hear a "b".
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