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Old 04-02-2007, 12:13 AM   #16
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Can you tell me why not?
Every album after Pop has been called a masterpiece....when none of them have
been...... at least IMO

plus if U2 keeps going on their "adult contemporary route"...then
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Every album after Pop has been called a masterpiece....when none of them have
been...... at least IMO

plus if U2 keeps going on their "adult contemporary route"...then
At least it's a new direction. Every phase U2 has been in is indicative of where they are in their lives; as they get older, I expect them to make music that fits their current beliefs, skills, etc...

(that could be the first time a semicolon was used in this forum. )
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Every album after Pop has been called a masterpiece....when none of them have
been...... at least IMO

plus if U2 keeps going on their "adult contemporary route"...then
The adult contemporary thing is a bunch of crap. They have dipped their toes in such waters before, but they have also pulled some experiments since then that negate that direction. It makes about as much sense as calling Radiohead IDM because of Backdrifts, The Gloaming, and Sit Down Stand Up.
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anyway back on topic

X&Y could have been good if:
  • They hadn't overproduced some songs
  • Got rid of "What if"
  • trashed "Fix you"
  • "A message" should have been canned
  • Had never written "swallowed in the
    sea"
  • Chris could write better lyrics
  • Mr. Buckland didn't try to sound like The Edge
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I agree with pretty much everything said about X&Y here. I actually think it gets bashed a little bit too often here (it wasn't THAT bad), but I really feel no need to defend it. It was a dud.
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Every phase U2 has been in is indicative of where they are in their lives; as they get older, I expect them to make music that fits their current beliefs, skills, etc...
Nice point; they cannot be expected to make the equivalent of Achtung Baby everytime that they enter a studio.
As for X&Y, I tend to enjoy it. It is certainly formulaic, and, in places, horrifically saccharine, but it is certainly not terrible. Then again, I have never been one to acclaim A Rush of Blood to the Head as a masterpiece either, so the disparity for me between the two is not very large.
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At least it's a new direction. Every phase U2 has been in is indicative of where they are in their lives; as they get older, I expect them to make music that fits their current beliefs, skills, etc...

well this "new direction" got old

anyway to me it seems they want to make radio friendly music....
and I don't see them changing because they have been very successful at it

anyway whateva
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I think X & Y failed for three reasons:
1. Terrible production
2. Too much focus on rock
3. I liked Running Up That Hill the first time

It's a shame, there are a lot of good things happening in the album that could have made it great.
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This is also why X&Y failed:

Parachutes - great debut record, tons of well-made pop songs; nothing too musically interesting though.

A Rush of Blood... - A step in a new direction; the songwriting of Parachutes with more advanced music to support it.

X&Y - Uhm... basically a sidestep/step in the wrong direction. Where's the evolution from A Rush of Blood...? Ripping off City of Blinding Lights and a Kraftwerk song and marketing it as your next big singles isn't a good thing.
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\A Rush of Blood to the Head as a masterpiece either, so the disparity for me between the two is not very large.
I really think its a masterpiece

politik----> Amsterdam
An epic opener to a fantastic closer

from start to finish with 1 weak track [A Whisper]....but other than that they peaked
during this era
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Ripping off City of Blinding Lights and a Kraftwerk song and marketing it as your next big singles isn't a good thing.
yea the whole plagiarism thing is

they really want to be Oasis

don't they??
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I think a point to be made here is that not every band evolves throughout their careers. U2, Radiohead, and Pink Floyd fans tend to take progressive development through experimentation for granted; in my mind, however, Coldplay simply does not have that type of potential. I believe that they are likely to languish in Rush of Blood to the Head type material for the rest of their career.
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Here's some SAT Practice:

The Beatles are to Oasis
as
U2 is to:

A) Coldplay
B) Coldplay
C) Coldplay
D) Tone Loc

What? She like to do da Wild Thang.
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yea the whole plagiarism thing is
Yeah, they basically wrote two new songs over Kate Bush's Running Up That Hill in Talk and Speed Of Sound.

Running Up That Hill:
Speed Of Sound:
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The adult contemporary thing is a bunch of crap. They have dipped their toes in such waters .

dipped their toes?

they almost drowned in that crap
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