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Old 12-13-2003, 01:44 PM   #16
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Medal of Honor: Rising Sun includes Pearl Harbor. It should be released shortly.
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Old 12-13-2003, 04:55 PM   #17
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Well in all honesty - pretending to kill another person is sick...but we can't lose track and sit there and say that video games are reality because its simply not true...just my thought - I play those games, doesnít mean that I want to kill people. Also it does not mean that it degrades history - my favorite subject is history and I play those games...its only for entertainment value.
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what is the difference between a video game based on an actuall event and a movie based upon an actuall event? i think you're way off base here... i own "medal of honor: frontline" for ps2 in which the opening scene reinacts the invasion of normandy. what is so wrong about a video game reinacting a famous battle, when movies such as saving private ryan, which was a ficticious story (private ryan never existed... it was loosely based on another family that did serve in ww2). people reinact famous battles of the civil war all the time. there's no complaints about that.
I think the main difference is in the intent. While a movie like Saving Private Ryan might be a fictitious reinactment, it's intended to make a statement about war. It is entertainment yes, but it is also artistic expression, one of the better commentaries on the horrors of war.

Can you say that a video game like Medal of Honor strives to achieve the same?
I think it was made simply so you can pretend to be in war, and have fun killing bad guys, without having to experience the sheer terror inherent to such an event.
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like i said in the rest of that post... medal of honor was created by stephen spielberg, who's been hailed by ww2 vets for the work he's done, including saving private ryan, band of brothers, as well as various charity work he's done. it is not your usuall shoot 'em up blood and guts video game... ala the GTA series. it is really a history lesson. and for a lot of the people who play the games, it's more history then they'll ever learn in their every day life.

while their have been video games out there where the intent is just to pretend and shoot 'em up and beat the bad guy... i can honestly say from playing the games that the medal of honor series was made with the same intent as spielberg's movies about ww2
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medal of honor is great , i'm not talking about violence , it's about design , all the stuff from WW2 seems so real , like a history book , german subs , it's just a game ,
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...its only for entertainment value.
perhaps that is the point some are making. its not necessarily applicable to folks in this thread as all of you seem to be well read on history and appreciate and respect it. what of those who dont? is it tasteless then?
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perhaps that is the point some are making. its not necessarily applicable to folks in this thread as all of you seem to be well read on history and appreciate and respect it. what of those who dont? is it tasteless then?
It would seem to me that some people may find the concept of a game based on shooting others "disturbing" or something along those lines. And I can see the point they could make, but to me it's a little obsurd to take these games out of the context that they are indeed games; being a form of entertainment and not reality (thats just my personal opinion).
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It's a video game. I think people need to be a little less uptight about these things. If the VFW was offended by these games, I think they would have said so already...and I'm sure the news networks would listen, considering that ridiculous moral crusades are right up their alley.

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I dont really think there is a right or wrong way to look at this. It's opinion. People are entitled to be offended at whatever they like, stupid as it might be to some who clearly dont think that way.
I personally dont care either way about violent games or movies or anything.
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like i said in the rest of that post... medal of honor was created by stephen spielberg, who's been hailed by ww2 vets for the work he's done, including saving private ryan, band of brothers, as well as various charity work he's done. it is not your usuall shoot 'em up blood and guts video game... ala the GTA series. it is really a history lesson. and for a lot of the people who play the games, it's more history then they'll ever learn in their every day life.

while their have been video games out there where the intent is just to pretend and shoot 'em up and beat the bad guy... i can honestly say from playing the games that the medal of honor series was made with the same intent as spielberg's movies about ww2
fair enough...i admit i know nothing about Medal of Honor. so if it does carry the same intent as his movie, then that's definitely a good thing.
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It's a video game. I think people need to be a little less uptight about these things. If the VFW was offended by these games, I think they would have said so already...and I'm sure the news networks would listen, considering that ridiculous moral crusades are right up their alley.

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I respect veterans, sorry if that mean's i'm uptight. My family is full of screwed up vets from WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Seeing a "game" about the hell they went through bothers me.

And the film comparisson is crazy. "Band of Brothers" left me stunned at the end. At the end of these video games you just press reset and get 3 new lives.
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why is the movie comparison crazy? both are made for the same reasons... to be informative and to be entertaining. where in exactly lies the difference? yea... a video game has a reset button. vcr's and dvd players have a rewind button... slow motion buttons... whatever.

i haven't played moh: rising sun yet... but i have played moh: front line... and i must say the opening scene, the normandy invasion, is one of the most intense and difficult scenes in video game history.

again... to one his own. if you just feel that against putting a famous battle or war in video game form, then there's nothing i can say that'll change your mind. i also have quite a few veterans in my family, most of whom have already passed on. i don't see these games as disrespecting their memory, rather as a living tribute to what they went through. but that's just me. but before you simply type-cast the medal of honor series along with other more cartoonish video games, i'd implore you, if you have a video game system, to rent one of the games and see it for yourself. then, if you still feel it's just capitalizing off the memory of our veterans, then fine. i still see it as a tribute more than anything
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It doesn't matter how well done the game is. It's the fact that it is a game at all that bothers me. At least a film can be art, expressing some kind of emotion or feeling about an event. What's the expression here?
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