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Old 10-13-2005, 09:18 AM   #106
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For a few millions euro i think they will, it depends how much fergie really wants or needs him in the team
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:19 AM   #107
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How much can you rate Ballack, 10-15 millions..............?
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10 - He won't leave tho.
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:28 AM   #109
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I think that outside germany this player can actually only fail.
Many teams like Real, Barcelona, Inter, Milan have also interest, but he's almost 30, he never played abroad, and he's too german to change his german player mentality......................
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[i] he's too german to change his german player mentality...................... [/B]
You mean, a winner mentality ?
3 world cups (won in the last 60 years)
3 or 4 Eurocups.
Well, it's a good mentality.....

Anyway, the favorites for the world cup

1 Brazil
2 Argentina
3 Italy
4 Netherlands
5 France
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31 England
32 Togo
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31 England
32 Togo
I think England will have a tough time against Togo...
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:03 PM   #112
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You mean, a winner mentality ?
3 world cups (won in the last 60 years)
3 or 4 Eurocups.
Well, it's a good mentality.....



Yep, I correct myself, nowdays german mentality................
Germany's no more the big team they used to be, after Euro 1996 a lot of things changed. except the world cup 2002, where they catched the final (god only knows how, remember the game against USA?? And the same final against Brazil?? Germany was slapped around, they played bad football, not the one we were used to), this is what they've done

1998 world cup: out in 1/4 final 0-3 against Croatia
2000 euro : out first turn with 1 draw and 2 defeats
2004 euro . out first turn 1 draw 2 defeats



and today's Klinsmann' s national team is also a poor thing, discontinous and many times awful.
Not talking about the clubs, already 3 teams were thrown away right after the first game in uefa cup and germany lost a few years ago even the 4th team in champions league..................
More failure than this...........................
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the favorites for the world cup

1 Brazil
2 Argentina
3 Italy
4 Netherlands
5 France
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31 England
32 Togo


This is an attentat to aardvarks coronaries........................
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Australia will play Uraguay in the play-off.

I can just smell more heartbreak.
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england 31 yeah right!!!!!!!!
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31? That is BS, pure and simple.
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I don't think you people should expect Germany to do bad this time, though. Regardless of their recent results.
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I disagree with guill's list. England are not the 31st best country that are going to the World Cup, by virtue of the fact that Bahrain might be going there. Bahrain are crap. I know this. That said England are not going to win the tournament.

Neither is Germany. Or for that matter, France or Italy.

Who will win? Brazil, of course.
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I disagree with guill's list. England are not the 31st best country that are going to the World Cup, by virtue of the fact that Bahrain might be going there. Bahrain are crap. I know this. That said England are not going to win the tournament.

Neither is Germany. Or for that matter, France or Italy.

Who will win? Brazil, of course.
Since the tournament is in Germany, I expect the Netherlands as one of the finalists. And I of course hope for a result like we had in 1988 (although that one was for the European Cup).
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I disagree with guill's list. England are not the 31st best country that are going to the World Cup, by virtue of the fact that Bahrain might be going there. Bahrain are crap. I know this. That said England are not going to win the tournament.

Neither is Germany. Or for that matter, France or Italy.

Who will win? Brazil, of course.
Seriously speaking, I think that Brazil is clearly a favorite.

A notch below are Argentina, Italy and Germany.

And a notch below them are England, France and the Netherlands.

A lot will depend on the so-called "lottery" to allocate the groups that I think will take place in December... curiously enough, this lottery yielded that during the last World Cup we had to play England, Sweden and Nigeria... while Brazil played Turkey, Costa Rica and some other crappy team. Make your own conclusions...

Togo is a little bit behind...
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