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Old 12-12-2005, 12:34 PM   #166
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Argentina was much stronger in 2002 and what happened? Don't get me wrong , you have certenly better team then Serbia but you don't have discipline and good atmosphere in team and you will for sure underestimate us . But you will beat Holland.
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which was?
Thou shall not suck in the first round.

Thou shall be more humble and play as team.

Favorites shall not win World Cups.

Oh, and most importantly...

best time to meet with England is in the quarterfinals...
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Argentina was much stronger in 2002 and what happened? Don't get me wrong , you have certenly better team then Serbia but you don't have discipline and good atmosphere in team and you will for sure underestimate us . But you will beat Holland.
That is exactly the point... this team is much more humble and they know that they do not come as favorites like we did in 2002, where we thought we had already won the Cup. This time around we have several younger players that, in my humble opinion, will make a difference and do a much better job than 2002.

I always remember the group we got in 1986: Italy, Bulgaria and Korea.

Don't get me wrong, I very much look forward to the Argentina - Serbia match. I think the first two matches in the group will be critical as both of the teams have to win them.
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Thou shall not suck in the first round.

Thou shall be more humble and play as team.

Favorites shall not win World Cups.
to the first 2

weren't brazil the favorites last time?
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to the first 2

weren't brazil the favorites last time?
Not really.

They barely qualified last time around (I think they were third in the South American qualifiers) and did not come as the superpower like they are today. After all, Ronaldinho was 19-years old at that time.

Regardless, Brazil is always Brazil. And, much to my regret, they have the quality, depth and luck to make it very far... again.
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Not really.

They barely qualified last time around (I think they were third in the South American qualifiers) and did not come as the superpower like they are today. After all, Ronaldinho was 19-years old at that time.

Regardless, Brazil is always Brazil. And, much to my regret, they have the quality, depth and luck to make it very far... again.
oh, ok

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One thing that many people overlooked is that the two that make it out of group C (Argentina, Holland, Serbia, Ivory Coast) will face the first two of Group D, arguably the weakest in the competition (Mexico, Portugal, Angola and Iran) so they have a relatively easy ticket to the quarterfinals...

On the other hand, Brazil may end up facing Italy or the Czech Republic in the round of 16...
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One thing that many people overlooked is that the two that make it out of group C (Argentina, Holland, Serbia, Ivory Coast) will face the first two of Group D, arguably the weakest in the competition (Mexico, Portugal, Angola and Iran) so they have a relatively easy ticket to the quarterfinals...

On the other hand, Brazil may end up facing Italy or the Czech Republic in the round of 16...
true

and there's no 'may' about brazil playing the czechs or italy
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and there's no 'may' about brazil playing the czechs or italy
Yup, and England needs to win its group. Otherwise, they may have to face Germany in the round of 16.
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Yup, and England needs to win its group. Otherwise, they may have to face Germany in the round of 16.
that's true but i think we'd beat germany anyway

i do think we'll win the group
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woo more people that care. I wish there was a place locally I could go and drink and enjoy the draw with people. instead its me driving my wife nuts with news and tidbits I find on the net.

She will become a fan of the game.. oh yes she will

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everyone should be a fan of the game
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aren't Denmark and Sweden big rivals?
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aren't Denmark and Sweden big rivals?
, but only when we are actually in the same tournament, if only one of us makes it, we support eachother, like brothers.

....and Johan Elmander plays in my club
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