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Old 07-24-2002, 04:33 PM   #16
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ABSOLUTELY LOVE vanessas "a thousand miles" and michelles "All you wanted"

and im sorry, no doubt this will provoke some shitthrowin, but i dont rate Madonna as an artist. At All.
I hate to drag your young age into this, but I think that might be a large influence. You might not have been alive to watch Madonna evolve as a performer, woman, etc., or might have been too young to pay attention.

While I don't care for Madonna any more, it would be crazy to not consider her an artist of sorts. She busted down the doors for women in the entertainment industry who didn't want to play by male record execs or society's rules. She advanced the art of showmanship and what it means to represent yourself. She rewrote the book on what could get people's attention musically and visually and still be relevant.

Michelle Branch needs a singing lesson. She is awful. Unfortunately, because all of these little girls choose to sing their bad poetry and learn to play minimal guitar, and bc they are in our faces all the time on MTV, many of us start to believe they are *actually* good and talented bc MTV and the media and the DJ's tell us they are good. Not always the case.

I'll pay attention to these new girls because I do love female songwriters who are original and can stand the test of time and trends. I don't anticipate them sticking around too long, though.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HelloAngel
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I hate to drag your young age into this, but I think that might be a large influence. You might not have been alive to watch Madonna evolve as a performer, woman, etc., or might have been too young to pay attention.

yeah, feel free to drag my age into it, because youre right.

i realise she did...well, all if what you said, and maybe i was wrong not to call her an artist, but what i meant, was, a musician, singer.

yknow, she cant sing. she cant write.

and i think she launched a thousand Britney Spears!

so, sorry HelloAngel, my wording was wrong!.
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I'm not too thrilled with any of them, to be honest.

Give any new artist 5 years, and if they're around by then maybe there's something there. How long did it take U2 before they established credibility?
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I'm not too thrilled with any of them, to be honest.

Give any new artist 5 years, and if they're around by then maybe there's something there. How long did it take U2 before they established credibility?


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You know, that name sounds familiar. Where would I know her from?
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You know, that name sounds familiar. Where would I know her from?
She's worked with the Chemical Brothers in the past and her newest single, "Concrete Sky," features Ryan Adams.
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Speaking of more ethereal girls in ROCK,

what do any of you know about: Gemma Hayes?

I have one of her songs on a Q Mag mix CD & was curious
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I don't know much about her, but I like what I've heard by her.

(that Q cd is the BEST!! I got about ten new albums b/c of it!)
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I'm not too thrilled with any of them, to be honest.

Give any new artist 5 years, and if they're around by then maybe there's something there. How long did it take U2 before they established credibility?
That's my main gripe with the music industry right now is that young artists get one album, sometimes only one single, to prove themselves. U2 showed a lot of promise with "Boy" and worked and learned and toured and practiced and grew to get to the point they are now. Today's up-and-comers don't have that luxury, they throw together their first album, maybe tour, then it's straight into the studio to make a second album and if that doesn't sell as well or better than the first, they're out.
We all know that "October" was not as financially or critically successful as "Boy," so under today's screwed up record company rules U2 might have never been able to make "War." So sad!
Artists need to be able to grow, to learn, to take their lumps, to succeed and fail and come out the other side of both, then they become interesting.
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SQUEAKY-VOICED GIRLS!!

...well, at least that's what my BF thinks about Michelle, Vanessa, and their ilk. (He can do a mean parody of Avril Lavigne!) I've gotta agree with him there!! None of these new singer-songwriter types really impress me all that much; they seem like a third-rate version of Alanis. Give me a Tori, a PJ, or a Beth Orton any day!
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She's worked with the Chemical Brothers in the past and her newest single, "Concrete Sky," features Ryan Adams.
Ryan Adams. I'm sold
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Those first 2 girls sound exactly the same....but it's better than that slutty brittney and christina bullshit.


And may I add that not only do they sound exactly the same, they suck also?
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Although I hope that Michelle, Vanessa, and Avril evolve into better and talented musicians, I get the feeling that they're just one step up from Britney & Co. They play instruments and write their own music so they have more credibility, but from what I've heard their lyrics and music are pretty bad. It would be nice if they could stick around and improve, but it's probably just a passing trend.
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lol..oh the unexpsoed...

I need to comprise a LONG list or website someday for female musicians. The ones I can come up with quickly now I'd say are:

*Kate Bush* Progressive and known well esp with Peter Gabriel
Paula Cole same as above
Fiona Apple
PJ Harvey
Bjork
Enya
Mira
Alicia Keys
Lauryn Hill
Jaye Foucher
Lana Lane
Michelle Young

Bands with female musicians (primarily singers)
Renaissance (with Annie Haslam on vox)
Equinox
Halloween
Ken Baird with Sue Fraser
Sinkadus
Nexus
White Willow
Persephone's Dream
Cobweb Strange (along with 5 out of 6 other bands at the Rogue Independent Music festival in Atl this weekend)
Anekdoten
Par Lindh Project
Mastermind
The Gathering
Lacuna Coil
Nightwish
Theater Of Tragedy
Power Symphony

Dixie Chix
Martina Mcbride
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[color=royal blue]1. When the heck is Fiona gonna have a new CD?

2. Saw Sheryl Crow's new video. Single is "Steve McQueen"
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