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Old 11-13-2007, 11:28 PM   #16
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I hope not. Album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:32 PM   #17
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I wanted to add that albums have been the gold standard of music for so many decades now. Every artist seems to strive to create the legendary album that will persist in our memories for years to come.

Regardless of the changes in technology, I see that mindset persisting well into the future.
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Are old albums dead/dying as well? How will - for example - U2 convince people in 10yrs to pick up Achtung Baby as a complete set?
By remastering it and throwing in a b-sides/rarities disk and a concert DVD?
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I hope not. Album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
Really? I think I might rather see U2 release one new song every three months instead of an album once every three to four years.

Each song would say something about where the band is musically, politically, and spiritually at that moment rather than gathering up ideas over a period of years.
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By remastering it and throwing in a b-sides/rarities disk and a concert DVD?
And when the remastered version, b-sides, rarities and the concert are all available as individual tracks online?
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And when the remastered version, b-sides, rarities and the concert are all available as individual tracks online?
That's what "album only" tracks are all about.
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I hope not. Album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
But you are painting an either or, black and white package...

You're missing the big picture.
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But you are painting an either or, black and white package...

You're missing the big picture.
There is an art to making a good single.

There is also an art to making a good album.

You can't just remove one and keep the other. Both are respectable, and both should remain readily available.
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There is an art to making a good single.

There is also an art to making a good album.

You can't just remove one and keep the other. Both are respectable, and both should remain readily available.
Or there may be something beyond the album, that was my point...
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Or there may be something beyond the album, that was my point...
An album is a collection of songs. As LMP said, there is unlikely anything beyond that; just different ways of packaging and distributing what is essentially an album by definition.

If you have something better in mind, please explain.
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An album is a collection of songs. As LMP said, there is unlikely anything beyond that; just different ways of packaging and distributing what is essentially an album by definition.

If you have something better in mind, please explain.
Well if you read the thread...

There are now a few bands that are releasing a collection of songs that have a collection of video that ties them all together.

Expand your mind.
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No, but there's no reason why "proper promotion" can't be used to promote a digital release rather than a CD.

It's easy to imagine a pop-up or an instant message on your iPhone letting you know that the latest U2 track is available for download.

Starbucks has already been selling cards that allow you to download a specific album from the iTunes store.

I can't recall the last time I was enticed to buy a physical CD by a display in a CD store.
Yes, but all of that has been happening for years, and disappears the second you take away the role of the record/promo company who do a shitload more than just hang posters in record stores (especially when you are talking about new artists who don't have the reputation, reach or cash in the bank).

So that's what I'm really asking - if you take the 'excess' cash out of every sale, you flatten the market. Word of mouth alone will decide who sinks and who swims. What happens then? What will rise?
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I don;t mind having one-off singles now and then (like Travis 'Coming Around', U2 'A Celebration', Who the fuck are the Arctic Monkeys"), but albums are just such an amazing thing.

If I was in a band, I'd feel really proud about writing an album, it'd be a goal of mine, to write an album-oreintated collection of songs.

I hate it when I hear that same ol' argument trotted out. That Albums mean having to purchase crap tracks even if you only wanna hear the 2 or 3 you heard on the radio. What a load of crap. It's obvious these folk have never listend to a proper album, and their music taste is probably limited to Nickleback and the like.....

I wonder what folk here think about Ash's declaration that they have written their last album, and will only release one-off singles and EP's from now on? Have they caved in?
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I honestly think the EP is a great idea. I could care less about singles, but EPs could actually be...wow. EPs are usually frowned upon because 1. the way labels view them now, they tend to be throw-away tracks and 2. the cost...

But unsigned artist have made an artform out of EPs, very similar to the brilliance of Jar of Flies...

Think about how many of the artist you listen to, how many of them truly know how to record great full length albums?
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Well if you read the thread...

There are now a few bands that are releasing a collection of songs that have a collection of video that ties them all together.

Expand your mind.
No mind-expansion needed. Beck did that last year, and I'm pretty sure Bjork has done it as well.

It would be interesting if an artist would release an album on DVD only, as a complete A/V experience, but people are still stuck on CDs (and, frankly, so am I).
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