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Old 02-23-2005, 06:58 AM   #61
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i have a feeling we're gonna be hearing a lot about that trophy this season...
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The trophy came and visited my neck of the woods this past weekend. Of course I was away and didn't get to go see it.
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what are they taking it into the woods for? ponderous... f'ing ponderous.
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It has a real purdy mouth.
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sooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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i admit, last year the red sox were the best team in baseball. However, this year, the yankees come in as the underdogs, as they have the past two years (everyone seems to forget that). Johnson might be old, but in comparison to the red sox, so is wells. Schilling is up their, Moose is to. Pavano and Miller, Wright and Arroyo. They are all good matchups. The key is the fifth starter. Brownie, vs Halama? I don't follow the sox 24/7, but I think they have a couple pitchers competing for the fifth spot.


As for the bullpen, the Yankees revamped. Thats all I have to say about that.


Also, on the infamou, Giambi cannot produce without steroids. Last year, in Spring Training, the whole fuss was about how he had lost so much weight. At this point, according to his jury statement, he was off of the roids. At the beginning of the season, he was FANTASTIC. Then all that "stuff" started to set in. If Giambi can perform like that, he is just another valueable commodity the Yankees will have, which in turn, might give them the edge over a couple of teams.
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However, this year, the yankees come in as the underdogs.
The Yankees can never be underdogs. They always play the role of Goliath.
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i admit, last year the red sox were the best team in baseball. However, this year, the yankees come in as the underdogs, as they have the past two years (everyone seems to forget that). Johnson might be old, but in comparison to the red sox, so is wells. Schilling is up their, Moose is to. Pavano and Miller, Wright and Arroyo. They are all good matchups. The key is the fifth starter. Brownie, vs Halama? I don't follow the sox 24/7, but I think they have a couple pitchers competing for the fifth spot.
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you forgot matt clement.
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you forgot matt clement.
And good 'ol Tim Wakefield is still kicking too...
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However, this year, the yankees come in as the underdogs, as they have the past two years (everyone seems to forget that).
Funny that every sportsbook in Vegas ha sthe Yankees as odds on favorites to win the World series, yet you paint them as underdogs. C'mon, you gotta do better than that.
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the kansas city royals are underdogs... the pittsburgh pirates are underdogs... i'll even give ya the minnesota twins as underdogs... neither the yankees nor the red sox or even the mets and dodgers for that matter should EVER be considered underdogs with the amount of money they spend.
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im just stating that they are considered underdogs in the AL east, with the sox being the front runners. Those are the two I was forgetting. Matt Clement, he is shaky, but if he can perform (same with Wake) both pitching staffs are even.
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im just stating that they are considered underdogs in the AL east, with the sox being the front runners. Those are the two I was forgetting. Matt Clement, he is shaky, but if he can perform (same with Wake) both pitching staffs are even.
Current Odds to win the AL East
Baltimore Orioles- 50/1
Boston Red Sox- 3/1
New York Yankees- 1/5
Tampa Bay Devil Rays- 120/1
Toronto Blue Jays- 150/1

Current Odds to win the ALCS
Anaheim Angels- 5/1
Baltimore Orioles- 25/1
Boston Red Sox- 3/1
Chicago White Sox- 16/1
Cleveland Indians- 16/1
Detroit Tigers- 20/1
Kansas City Royals- 90/1
Minnesota Twins- 8/1
New York Yankees- 1/1
Oakland Athletics- 11/1
Seattle Mariners- 9/1
Tampa Bay Devil Rays- 90/1
Texas Rangers- 20/1
Toronto Blue Jays- 90/1

Current Odds to win the World Series
Anaheim Angels- 10/1
Arizona Diamondbacks- 55/1
Atlanta Braves- 15/1
Baltimore Orioles- 55/1
Boston Red Sox- 6/1
Chicago Cubs- 17/2
Chicago White Sox- 35/1
Cincinnati Reds- 60/1
Cleveland Indians- 40/1
Colorado Rockies- 350/1
Detroit Tigers- 50/1
Florida Marlins- 17/1
Houston Astros- 25/1
Kansas City Royals- 300/1
Los Angeles Dodgers- 30/1
Milwaukee Brewers- 300/1
Minnesota Twins- 16/1
New York Mets- 9/1
New York Yankees- 2/1
Oakland Athletics- 30/1
Philadelphia Phillies- 25/1
Pittsburgh Pirates- 250/1
San Diego Padres- 20/1
San Francisco Giants- 15/1
Seattle Mariners- 30/1
St Louis Cardinals- 8/1
Tampa Bay Devil Rays- 240/1
Texas Rangers- 45/1
Toronto Blue Jays- 170/1
Washington Nationals- 250/1




OK... so how again are the Yankees underdogs in anything?
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im just stating that they are considered underdogs in the AL east,
As Headache has illustrated the Yanks are currently clear cut favorites over the Red Sox for the division and beyond,

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but if he can perform (same with Wake) both pitching staffs are even.
Yanks rotation on paper has huge advantages over Sox:
Using the 10 point must system:
1. Johnson vs Schilling (Advantage Johnson 10-9, unless Schilling's still hurt then its 10-5)
2. Mussina vs Wells (advantage Mussina 10-6, unless Wells' back goes, then 10-1)
3. Pavano vs. Wakefield (Advantage Pavano 10-8, unless he chokes on big apple pie)
4. Wright vs Clement ( draw)
5. Brown vs Arroyo (draw)
Final tally: Yanks 50, Sox 43
X-factor for Sox is Wade Miller, who could push Arroyo to bullpen
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