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Old 03-12-2002, 05:16 AM   #16
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yeah angie, my mum says I should wax but I hate all that..........

couldn't be arsed.......!!!!!!!!!!!!

Venus make lovely blade holders eh?

love the shade of light blue.......

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Old 03-12-2002, 05:49 AM   #17
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it is hard being a girl.........I blame mags too for shoving perfection into the eyes of a girl who can or may look nothing like that............fuk models, I would have REAL women in my mag............

Amen to that ;-)

*There are THREE BILLION women in this world who don't look like supermodels and only EIGHT who do*
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Old 03-12-2002, 06:03 AM   #18
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lol maddie, I think my mum was thinking the same, but I looked down at my furry legs and kinda conceded. I liked my razor holder so much I stuck on the shower wall

Thats a great quote Whizzee!
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Old 03-12-2002, 06:53 AM   #19
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As my very gorgeous friend, Claudia always used to say "Supermodels are freaks of nature."

The make up/ making yourself look nice thing... I can walk out of the house without a scrap of make up on and in a t shirt and jeans and I dont get a second glance. Slap a bit of make up on and a tight shirt and the boys look. I don't get it. Im the smae frigging person! Men are so thick sometimes.

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Old 03-12-2002, 11:35 AM   #20
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I just shave...never have liked waxing. I'm pretty lazy tho...I dont wear much make up either...takes me 10 minutes to get ready in the morning
hehe. me too. And I couldn't care less. If a guy wants me because of the paint on my face...hmm. No thanks.
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Old 03-12-2002, 12:41 PM   #21
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so, still no answer to the original question?

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I guess a feasable answer would be that the entertainment industry and media have taught society that the more super/arti-ficial women are, the better. Unfortunately.

I agree with death bear.

I like less make-up as well. I think my girlfriend looks outstanding without it.
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yes Salome, it would help if all men didnt have eyes son!
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Old 03-12-2002, 12:52 PM   #24
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Zoomerang, I think I love you.

I went to a high school where looks were sooo overrated. I wore make-up, rolled my kilt, had the latest shirts, jeans, boots, etc. It was sad. The school was a joke really. I was a good student and all, just lived by these invisible rules of fashion and beauty set by-who knows?-- for the majority of the girls at school. The ones that didn't were made fun of or called 'ugly.' I always admired how they managed to look pulled together without overdone.
Gradually I stopped wearing as much makeup. I didn't care. I was dancing 6 days a week, doing homework until 2am. Who had time to get up, dry my (thick) hair, apply concealer, foundation, cover-up, eye shadow, liner, lipstick...? My friends were still my friends...why should anyone care what I look like?
Then I got to university. The diversity is astounding. I went from an all-Italian pretensious (sp?) high school to this amazing, different, university.
Girls, giys, really don't care what they look like. Wake up in the morning, shower, go to class. People see you at your worst (i.e. after you've pulled an all-nighter). No one cares. There's a lot more liking me for who I am rather than for what I look like. And I met so many amazing people (girls, guys--my boyfriend) who don't care if my hair isn't highlighted, or if my mascara is smudged.

I wake up now, put on a bit of concealer maybe and some mascara (on days when I have time). When I go out I get all dolled up, but really, who cares?

I still shave...I dance, so we have to. Plus, I do for hygenic reasons (underarms anyway). Legs I can take or leave. Who sees my legs in the winter? Besides, I was lucky enough to be blessed with blond thin hair that doesn't even show...

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so, still no answer to the original question?

because it makes us feel important
it makes us feel pretty
We feel guys will like us better
we feel more accepted
it boosts our self confidence by hiding our flaws

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Old 03-12-2002, 12:54 PM   #25
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Wow. I just got off the phone making my appointment to be waxed. I hate it too, but the reaction is always nice. However, it is a serious double standard. We get beard burn from their 5-o-clock shadow and they tell us to stop whining.... we let our leg stubble grow for more than a day and we're ape-women. It really isn't fair. Not that I like body hair, and I definately don't want to keep mine, but you get my drift.
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Old 03-12-2002, 12:57 PM   #26
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most men fear women
so I don't see how we pressure you into doing anything

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A little iorny here....Check out the other thread here in the Lemonade Stand. The majority of woman who have posted have said that a face is more important than body, as opposed to the few guys who have posted daying the body.

So, maybe men should wear make-up! I value natural good looks. Most of the women I am attracted to do not wear make up or go through a crazt regime to keep themselves all dolled up. They are just naturally pretty in my eye.
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Old 03-12-2002, 01:14 PM   #28
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Keep in mind, ladies, that supermodels are supermodels for several reasons, but one in particular: Physically, they are blank slates. Ever thought to yourself, "Yeah, she's pretty, I guess, but what's so damn great about her?"

Answer: Nothing. That's why she's a supermodel. One big reason, for example, that stick-thin fashion models came into style was that because the thinner a model is, the more she becomes a human hanger. The dress or the shirt or whatever lays flatter, hangs "better," and thus it's all about the *clothes* and the *look*--NOT the woman. Fashion modeling is a meat market. Remember that. They are human hangers, ladies.

I have never in my life known an actual guy who liked stick-thin girls. In fact, I have a guy friend who is fairly skinny himself and he is dating a girl who is pretty full-figured. He's just amazed by her. She's actually heavier than him, and to hear him talk about her, you'd swear that women had never come in sizes bigger than 8 before. He just loves how curvy and stuff she is. And while I'm only about five feet tall, I'm not exactly a waif in terms of weight, and every guy I've ever been with loves the fact that I'm not afraid of a few extra pounds.

I think most men like women to look nice, to do ourselves up a little bit, and I think that's pretty reasonable. Because, ladies, let's admit it: do you want to be seen in public with someone whose hair is a mess, whose clothes don't match and are wrinkled and icky...No! Of course you don't! (Unless you are so enlightened that you *truly* don't care, in which case I freely admit that you are a better person than I.) I think, however, that as a woman and as a human being, that you have the right to draw boundaries as to how much you want to "groom" yourself. Your significant other ought not to make demands on you.

Is the personal political? Sometimes, and perhaps I'm getting carried away. Let me wrap this up: IF IT HURTS, DON'T DO IT.



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Old 03-12-2002, 02:23 PM   #29
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If I get all dolled up and go out, I get absolutely no male attention.

If I'm traveling and wearing the same coffee-stained t-shirt for 2 days and no make-up, or stopping by the grocery store on my way home from the gym in sweats and a baseball cap, I have to fight them off.*

Go figure.

*okay, I embellished for effect

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Old 03-12-2002, 02:58 PM   #30
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Ummm, I like being a girl. If it hurts to wax, don't do it.
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