Why do rappers act so stupid?

The friendliest place on the web for anyone that follows U2.
If you have answers, please help by responding to the unanswered posts.
See posts with no answers
B

Bjork

Acrobat
Joined
Oct 30, 2001
Messages
321
Location
Iceland
Some of the rap songs I can tolerate, but most of them are just plain stupid. Fabolous, Petey Pablo, Ludacris...ugh! I can't stand those guys, and all their videos are the same- take place in a club with girls shaking their half-covered asses in front of the camera. WTF?
 
Yeah! And they walk round with pants so low u'd tink they had a months supply of dung in there!!!!!!!!

so the question is......are the crotches 'pushed' down under dung weight?
Or have they just got to make themselves look ridiculously 'bigger' than ur normal wee man?

confused.gif


lets ask Popkid, he would know.
 
Originally posted by Ana:

So should we consider Ricky Martin also as a raper??? LOL
tongue.gif


Click to expand...



------------------

"You must not look down on someone just 'cos they are 14 years old. When I was that age I listened to the music of John Lennon and it changed my way of seeing things, so I'm just glad that 14 year olds are coming to see U2 rather than group X." - Bono, 1988
 
Originally posted by Bjork:
Some of the rap songs I can tolerate, but most of them are just plain stupid. WTF?
Click to expand...


I don't think it's fair to criticize a genre based on the fruitlessness some of the party/booty rappers put forth. Rap is a very powerful means of expression. It serves to voice the anger a large population feels - and the party side of that music serves as just that - a way to party and forget about the everyday struggles many face, that perhaps many of us do not experience.

You probably haven't heard any of the intelligent and political rap that's out there because most of it isn't on commercial radio or television. Mos Def, Common, Nas, Public Enemy.. they don't receive alot of airtime anymore or at all. OutKast is brilliant, and they are just now receiving attention based on a few very commercial songs - but they are extremely intelligent and very talented at the music they produce, and most of it is not of the booty variety..

I guess my point is that you shouldnt stereotype the rap genre just because radio stations choose to push the bling-bling rap and not the intelligent rap. Saying that most of it is "stupid" is not a fair thing to say. Perhaps saying "it's not my cup of tea, but I can see why others enjoy it" would be far less explosive or dismissive.

I certainly don't enjoy the rap-rock that is popular right now - but it's because it's not my cup of tea. I wouldn't dare to characterize the music based on what an ass Fred Durst seems to be.
 
Originally posted by HelloAngel:

I don't think it's fair to criticize a genre based on the fruitlessness some of the party/booty rappers put forth. Rap is a very powerful means of expression. It serves to voice the anger a large population feels - and the party side of that music serves as just that - a way to party and forget about the everyday struggles many face, that perhaps many of us do not experience.

You probably haven't heard any of the intelligent and political rap that's out there because most of it isn't on commercial radio or television. Mos Def, Common, Nas, Public Enemy.. they don't receive alot of airtime anymore or at all. OutKast is brilliant, and they are just now receiving attention based on a few very commercial songs - but they are extremely intelligent and very talented at the music they produce, and most of it is not of the booty variety..

I guess my point is that you shouldnt stereotype the rap genre just because radio stations choose to push the bling-bling rap and not the intelligent rap. Saying that most of it is "stupid" is not a fair thing to say. Perhaps saying "it's not my cup of tea, but I can see why others enjoy it" would be far less explosive or dismissive.

Click to expand...

Okay, I didn't mean to stir up controversy. Some people take things too seriously! It's called an "opinion." And I'm not going to apologize for it. I think artists like Mos Def, Fugees, and Outkast are great. But a lot of the rappers I see on MTV need to get new material for their songs, as well as new videos for their songs.
 
Originally posted by Bjork:
Okay, I didn't mean to stir up controversy. Some people take things too seriously! It's called an "opinion." And I'm not going to apologize for it. I think artists like Mos Def, Fugees, and Outkast are great. But a lot of the rappers I see on MTV need to get new material for their songs, as well as new videos for their songs.
Click to expand...

I'm not asking you to apologize, and yes I certainly know what an opinion is, and the right to have one.

But you have to consider also that you are talking about MTV. Many "artists" do not control their image - and many are in it for the Big Bucks. Some don't have integrity, and some are just building an audience, getting their name out there. The rappers you see on MTV are not at all representative of the best the rap world has to offer, except for OutKast. MTV has a very narrow, small mind. Thank goodness BET is out there getting some of the good rap music played - otherwise many would have no other exposure to it.

Even Lauryn Hill, as lauded as she is - came out recently and stated that her "image" back in the day was all for maximum exposure - it was not how she truly felt, or how she wanted to be represented.

Personally, I just try not to criticize genres of music that are not necessarily intended for my enjoyment or understanding.
 
Hahaha.. BJork.. I'll assume you are a girl.. Hence the immense hatred of Lud.. Ludacris is one of the funniest rappers out there, that's what he's going for.. just to make ya'll laugh, And he's pretty sweet at it.. Fabolous... I think his raps flow like pure poetry.. I'm a huuuge Nas fan.. But I'm not really a fan of Mos def.. Actually I think he sucks, but we're all entitled to our opinion

But anyways, I'm not going to try and defend the videos, cuz they're all pretty shitty.. I mean sometimes there are good 'booty shakin' ones, but on the whole they're just the same thing over and over..

If you're a fan of 'good' rap groups, Have you ever listened to Tribe Called Quest..

L.Unplugged
 
wyk-rapper.gif
Yo Yo Yo Yo

?Ma names Rapper Jim?.Im 90 years ol?
Im the Grand-daddy Rapper of this town I?ll have you know

I can move real sleek, I can move with style
Ok I must admit, these movements take a while

I cannot sit for very long, or even at that just stand
But hey, my sweet mofos, I can still flip backward on one hand

Sometimes u hear a squeakin, sometimes you see brown sappy
One is me leg, the other leakage from me nappy

I like to thrust it baby, I do it everyday
And pple are impressed by me and even leave some pay

Im never gonna give this up, no matter how much older
Me and me brothers all look fine, mind u, their clothers are much bolder

But let me tell u this, when I die, I wanna see
Half-a-dozen naked rap video babes where Im to be?

I leave u now with a smile, a dance and a little note
Next time u see, one just like me, send?im to a nursin home!

Byeeeeee *waves bye bye*

gosh that was CRAP.....
rolleyes.gif


biggrin.gif




[This message has been edited by mad1 (edited 03-06-2002).]
 
that was alarmingly convincing maddie

------------------
Salome
Shake it, shake it, shake it
 
Originally posted by Lemonite:
Hahaha.. BJork.. I'll assume you are a girl.. Hence the immense hatred of Lud.. Ludacris is one of the funniest rappers out there, that's what he's going for.. just to make ya'll laugh, And he's pretty sweet at it.. Fabolous... I think his raps flow like pure poetry.. I'm a huuuge Nas fan.. But I'm not really a fan of Mos def.. Actually I think he sucks, but we're all entitled to our opinion

But anyways, I'm not going to try and defend the videos, cuz they're all pretty shitty.. I mean sometimes there are good 'booty shakin' ones, but on the whole they're just the same thing over and over..

If you're a fan of 'good' rap groups, Have you ever listened to Tribe Called Quest..

L.Unplugged
Click to expand...

Heyyy!!
biggrin.gif
I'm a girl and I listen to rap! LOL.

I love that new Lud song -
"Stay out my biznasss, biznassss!!"

It is funny as hell!

Ditto for Tribe - they are amazing.
 
anyone want to suggest a Tribe Called Quest album for me to buy?

------------------
Salome
Shake it, shake it, shake it
 
Originally posted by mad1:
wyk-rapper.gif
Click to expand...

Maddie, you scared me SO much with that thing.

------------------

"You must not look down on someone just 'cos they are 14 years old. When I was that age I listened to the music of John Lennon and it changed my way of seeing things, so I'm just glad that 14 year olds are coming to see U2 rather than group X." - Bono, 1988
 
I love Arrested Development, still, although you dont really here about them anymore = and would they even be considered rap?? dont mind me.
 
I have been an avid rap fan for more than 10 years now. But even I get frustrated with how stupid some of them act. For me, it's about the music. Although I'm not much for any videos by Fabolous, I like his rapping style. And "half-covered asses" is being pretty generous. Some of the videos lately are closer to soft-core porn than music videos. And yes, all the videos are starting to run together.

So while I still love the music, I can see how people get frustrated with the image that rappers project.

And Bjork, Petey Pablo does suck. "Take your shirt off, wave it round your head like a helicopter" does nothing for me.
biggrin.gif


------------------
U2 @ The Blooming Heart
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

LemonMelon
Desert Island XI - QUARANTINE ISLAND - Group 1 Listening Thread
7 8 9
Replies
244
Views
7K
LemonMelon
LemonMelon
LemonMelon
Desert Island XI - QUARANTINE ISLAND - Master List and Discussion Thread
4 5 6
Replies
175
Views
5K
Axver
Axver
A
The little stranger chapter 10
Replies
0
Views
675
annj
A
Axver
I'm disappointed in every tour U2 have ever done
Replies
23
Views
2K
redhill
redhill
N
Best Live Track Survivor - Intro, Rules & Discussion
Replies
1
Views
674
Hewson
Hewson

Latest posts

Back
Top Bottom