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Old 06-28-2005, 06:54 AM   #1
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Why all the hate against Starbucks?

Note: I posted this in 'Just the Bang and the Clatter' but I thought that it would be better here to have a wider discussion.

Why all the hate against Starbucks?

To me, and pardon my ignorance, Starbucks is a company that truly transformed America's substandard taste in terms of coffee and created a true culture. Before Starbucks, all we had in the U.S. was 'standard' American coffee which, in my opinion, was pretty much flavorless. Now we have caramel macchiato, frapuccino, moccha, etc.

I read Howard Schultz' book (Pour Your Heart Into It) and saw how a guy from the Brooklyn projects was able to realize his American dream and, at the same time, create a culture with it. Maybe I am being naive, but I see no harm in that. Overexpansion maybe?

I am a big fan of Starbucks but would like to hear your views on it to better understand why there is so much hate against it.

Thanks.
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its a giant corporation so by definition it must be evil!

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I hate coffee in general, nothing personal.
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I hate coffee in general, nothing personal.


Tea on the other hand..
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I'm not a coffee connoisseur, I have simple tastes in my tea or coffee. but, I hate Starbucks because I find their coffee far too hot (I was always lead to believe that coffee should be warm not scalding), too expensive for what it is and almost tasteless. I mean sue me, I don't like the taste of their regular coffee or cappacino. That's the only kind of coffee I'll drink.

There's that fast-food thing that I hate too. I'd rather sooner go to an independant coffee shop if I just want to sit and relax for a bit. If I'm in a rush I'd choose a Costa Coffee if I have the option. Starbucks would only be if I feel desperate for coffee, which really isn't that often.

When I was in the States recently I did like the coffee at Dunkin Donuts.

Pax will probably remember me having about two sips of my Starbucks coffee in Baltimore and then throwing it in the bin. She'll remember the stop at DD on our way to New York and that I liked their coffee.


my two cents. apart from that i don't care, i don't go so doesn't bother me.
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The hate for Starbucks is because of the smarmy hippy people they have working there. My biggest annoyance with starbucks are the terms they have for small, medium, and large. It may be petty but I will never sell out and ask for a grande double mocha whatever. It will always be medium in my book.
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Coffee tastes like shit
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I cannot stand the taste of coffee ... I am a "tea" drinker !!
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Their coffee is too strong...
Their stores are annoying!!!.....
Their coffee is WAY too expensive....

I have only been once and it wasn't my choice anyway yeah the minute I walked in I was really annoyed..
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The hate for Starbucks is because of the smarmy hippy people they have working there.
I have to say in defense of Starbucks (even though I do hate the coffee) I have always found the people that work there very customer friendly. just my personal experience but I have been to Starbucks less times than i have fingers because I don't like their coffee.

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My biggest annoyance with starbucks are the terms they have for small, medium, and large. It may be petty but I will never sell out and ask for a grande double mocha whatever. It will always be medium in my book.


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i once went to a starbucks in columbus, ohio. the person working there was a huuuuuge hippy. i think she was a U2 fan though.




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I have an old HS friend who now works at Starbucks and she's a thief, not a hippy, but yeah, a thief is not good either...
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The hate for Starbucks is because of the smarmy hippy people they have working there. My biggest annoyance with starbucks are the terms they have for small, medium, and large. It may be petty but I will never sell out and ask for a grande double mocha whatever. It will always be medium in my book.
Hey!! Im a smarmy hippie person! I don't however hang out in starbucks because all the terms they use for their coffee are just overwhelming and make me feel stupid. Double latte, mocha something? Just give me a cup of joe!
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When I was in the States recently I did like the coffee at Dunkin Donuts.

Pax will probably remember me having about two sips of my Starbucks coffee in Baltimore and then throwing it in the bin. She'll remember the stop at DD on our way to New York and that I liked their coffee.
Dunkin' Donuts... Yes, I remember.

I like Starbucks well enough, but man, they're expensive. There is one near me, but I never go to it. Just a plain small coffee is, like, $1.40 or something! I usually make my own coffee at home and take it to work, or, failing that, I buy a regular cup at work for fifty cents.

I'm kind of a coffee junkie...if it's reasonably strong and actually tastes like coffee, I tend not to be especially picky. I drink it black, so I'm easy to satisfy as a coffee customer.

That said, though...a Starbucks caramel macchiato is a lovely occasional treat.
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I don't however hang out in starbucks because all the terms they use for their coffee are just overwhelming and make me feel stupid. Double latte, mocha something? Just give me a cup of joe!
No kidding! There's only ONE word for my nectar of choice: DEW.
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