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Old 12-24-2001, 11:15 AM   #1
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WHO THE Hell IS THE MAN CALLED " IVAN CLAYTON JNR "

gimme your thoughts ( if you want to ) , honestly , about me !!!!!!!!
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Old 12-24-2001, 01:21 PM   #2
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this is a sad attempt at getting attention to feel good/bad about yourself.

what do you care what any of us think about you? it's what you think about you that counts.

get out of the house and go for a walk or something.
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Old 12-24-2001, 01:22 PM   #3
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Ivan is a friend of mine.
A cool righteous cat.

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Old 12-24-2001, 02:27 PM   #4
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you appeared and write a post or two in forums then disappear again, how can we think nething about you if we dont know you

well said popkidu2 this is a sad attempt at getting attention to feel good/bad about yourself.
what do you care what any of us think about you? it's what you think about you that counts.

get out of the house and go for a walk or something.



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Old 12-24-2001, 10:25 PM   #5
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Ivan is a 'cool-cat' who I met 1st hand in Boston.
A little misunderstood here but a nice eagar young man w/a wild flare about him- thats all.

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I think youve got good taste in movies.
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Old 12-25-2001, 12:48 AM   #8
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Originally posted by Diamond The U2 Patriot:
Ivan is a 'cool-cat' who I met 1st hand in Boston.
A little misunderstood here but a nice eagar young man w/a wild flare about him- thats all.

Diamond

I'm not disputing that db. nor am I saying that Ivan isn't a nice individual. Yeah, my origional post may seem harsh, but it is not healthy when you are concerned about what other individuals (individuals that you only interact for the most part on an internet bulliten board) think about you. Frankly, none of us really *know* anyone else on this board. People have the ability to create entirely different personas online because of the anonimity that it offers.

The fact is, I read the thread as a poorly vieled attempt to get either an ego boost, or, in the case of negative replies, justification for a negative self image. My point is, as I said in the first reply, it doesn't matter what any of us think about anyone else unless you know what you think about yourself. Yes, positive reinforcement from others is a good thing. Yes, humans are social creatures who need to interact and be loved by others. But this place is not the forum for self esteem boosting. It's not healthy and you are running the risk of some serious depression when you rely on the internet for your social interaction and self image boosting.

I'm sorry if this seems overly analytical or harsh, but I just simply get tired of seeing threads like this. I know that for some individuals social interaction offline is hard. And sometimes having some kind of attention or feeling like you are part of a community here can hold at bay some pretty hard feelings inside. But sooner or later one has to venture outside and live in the real world.

I get so frustrated every time I see one of these "I'm gonna commit suicide" threads. Do I feel for the person? Yes. Do I try and offer words of solace. Often yes. But it still bugs the hell out of me because 1) I can't do anything because they are somewhere else and I am here 2) I have no idea if they are serious or just playing for attention and 3) it indicates to me that the individual needs to get away from this place if we are the ones that they turn to.

I know I've totally gone off on a tangent and I apologize if I seem overly harsh in this post. It wasn't my intent, but the thread brough up some things that had been running through my head for a while.

Whatever. It's an interesting philasophical discussion if anyone wants to continue it...
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Yo Popkid-
You are a bright young man..
Very impressive response -seriously.
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...I have no idea if they are serious or just playing for attention...

You make some good points, but personally my gut feeling is that Ivan is just messin' around. I've never thought the guy was loopy; he just likes to be provocative (as in "thought provoking").
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Ivan needs help.
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Old 12-25-2001, 08:24 AM   #14
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I tend not to make a complete judgement of someone until I meet them in person.

Exactly.

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Old 12-25-2001, 10:39 AM   #15
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Merry Christmas to you too DB. I'm sorry I didn't wander over and say hello at Providence. Hell, I wasn't more than five feet from ya at points.

I'm curious if Ivan has read what I wrote. I'd be interested to hear his response. Maybe I walked right into a trap, so to speak. Maybe it wasn't that he wanted to know what people would say about him but what response people would put to such a thread.

Woof. My head hurts. Back to presents.....

Merry Christmas y'all
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