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Old 11-04-2005, 06:59 PM   #31
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Music snobbery is all relative.

Most of the people I know in real life think I'm a music snob just because I hate Bon Jovi and Toby Keith. But the folks at Pitchfork would probably think I'm a philistine for considering U2 my favorite band.

And just for the record, every time a band lets a song of theirs be used in a commercial, my respect for them dwindles. Then again, I'm an old fart who actually remembers a time when it was considered very, very bad form for any self-respecting band to do this.
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So hating music snobs, means you are a music snob?

I hate neo Nazis as well. Does that mean I am one?
I didn't say you are a music snob, I just said you are a snob.


Hating a person because they hate a band that does commercials is every bit as snobbish as hating a band because it does commercials.

I see no difference whatsoever.
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I didn't say you are a music snob, I just said you are a snob.


Hating a person because they hate a band that does commercials is every bit as snobbish as hating a band because it does commercials.

I see no difference whatsoever.
You're blind.
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Old 11-04-2005, 07:31 PM   #34
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i lose a bit of respect for a band everytime their music is played in a commercial too and i'm no old fart - just 21. But, i'm also not a indie snob. Nevertheless, hip-hop and rap artists - who frankly are by and large black - can easily get away with doing commercials. Hell, it's even encouraged - tt's part of "the hussle." Why is there this double standard for rock stars and rappers?
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You're blind.
so are you and you are still a snob.
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Why is there this double standard for rock stars and rappers?
Because rock has a legacy of social idealism that has always rested uneasily alongside its dreams-of-fame-&-fortune elements.

As soon as I saw this thread title in the Active Threads list, I knew immediately who the thread starter would be. yertle and indra have a point--these threads might as well all be prefixed with "INDIE SNOBWATCH!" The agenda behind them certainly appears consistent and obvious.

It is entirely possible to find the branding and franchising of rock music problematic without being a knee-jerk "purist" about it. By repeatedly caricaturing these kinds of objections in a way that implicitly reduces them all to the level of infantile whining (which is definitely one form they can take), you are mirroring the simplistic reductionism you claim to despise.

My two cents.
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By repeatedly caricaturing these kinds of objections in a way that implicitly reduces them all to the level of infantile whining (which is definitely one form they can take), you are mirroring the simplistic reductionism you claim to despise.
That's the whole point.
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Meaning you yourself intend these threads as self-caricature?
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Meaning you yourself intend these threads as self-caricature?
Yep. You can have your 2 cents back.
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Well, they do have a fondness for red-and-white colour scheme,

I personally have no problem with music used in commercials; unless it's something *really* tacky.
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i like the White Stripes, never cared much for them since all i knew was their radio songs..
then i borrowed some cds of theirs from my boss once, and they totally grew on me. I'm not saying theyre the greatest band out there or the best musicians, but I know what I like and I like them.
I like jack's bluesy guitar, his voice and lyrics and meg's drumming.

yea, yea it sucks they freakin doing a coca cola ad but if i've learned anything from artists is that they will always let you down.
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You know, viewing yourself above the indie subculture is in a roundabout way no different from being within the indie subculture and viewing yourself above everyone else.
yeah, i noticed that about brau too.

nicely put, yertle.
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Sell out? I thought they did that when they signed their major contract. :cynical grin:

With all respect, music in ads is not very artsy, but for a US TV national campaign you make as much as a million $. Covers the cost for the indie promo of your next album.

Business is business. Bands or artists who absolutely want to stay 100% independent above everything else just don´t sign a major deal anymore.
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that's true too.
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the interesting thing is that he wrote this song specifically for the ad. they are not using one of the white stripes songs that their fans love and hold dear.

i'm actually interested to see what the ad looks like/ song sounds like.

plus, this will make my recurring vertigo ipod ad nightmares die down a bit. thanks jack!
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