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Old 11-06-2004, 08:19 PM   #31
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ok then... I like emo
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i think what's missing from everyone's "this is emo" description is that a lot of these bands try to pass themselves off as some kind of punk or hardcore. like the used. ever hear a terribly confused yellowcard fan tell you they're into punk rock, and when you ask them what kind of punk they list thrice and all those other bands they play on MTV or the warped tour mainstage?

that being said, you can't really call every single somewhat "emotional" song (u2, the cure, death cab for cutie, etc.) emo. u2 are...well, they're what they are. the cure, i don't know how ti categorize them, but i think "goth" might fit slightly into the long "post-neo-core" made-up genre mess...deathcab for cutie fall under typical indie kid band. it's quasi-indie, really, cos everyone's heard of them. indie kids, or at least indie kids of the super-trendy college variety listen to this stuff, something else becomes the new big thing, and they move on. they're the same as mainstream rap fans, only i don't know who dictates what's cool for them cos MTV sure ain't playing it...
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Not only the whiney music..I can't stand the metrosexual kids that come with it either!! Someone also told me Modest Mouse were emo!
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i think what's missing from everyone's "this is emo" description is that a lot of these bands try to pass themselves off as some kind of punk or hardcore. like the used. ever hear a terribly confused yellowcard fan tell you they're into punk rock, and when you ask them what kind of punk they list thrice and all those other bands they play on MTV or the warped tour mainstage?

that being said, you can't really call every single somewhat "emotional" song (u2, the cure, death cab for cutie, etc.) emo. u2 are...well, they're what they are. the cure, i don't know how ti categorize them, but i think "goth" might fit slightly into the long "post-neo-core" made-up genre mess...deathcab for cutie fall under typical indie kid band. it's quasi-indie, really, cos everyone's heard of them. indie kids, or at least indie kids of the super-trendy college variety listen to this stuff, something else becomes the new big thing, and they move on. they're the same as mainstream rap fans, only i don't know who dictates what's cool for them cos MTV sure ain't playing it...
BET maybe? hehe... and also, i never said that u2, cure, etc. are emo bands. i said there are some songs with emo song structures. some of their more "emotional" songs are not emo. it's more a question of music theory thatn content/feel. also, i don't categorize modest mouse or dcfc emo. and a lot of bands that were considered emo a couple years ago are not really emo anymore (the used, the get up kids -- debateable though, brand new, etc). i just think it's my overall musical taste. i find emo song structures more fulfilling as a fan and as a musician... the harmonies and layering guitar/piano/strings (common in songs with emo song structures) are really cool in my opinion... however, i think emo hasn't become ultra popular on mtv since it's hard to fit 6-8 min songs in a minute and a half video spot
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BET maybe? hehe... and also, i never said that u2, cure, etc. are emo bands. i said there are some songs with emo song structures. some of their more "emotional" songs are not emo. it's more a question of music theory thatn content/feel. also, i don't categorize modest mouse or dcfc emo. and a lot of bands that were considered emo a couple years ago are not really emo anymore (the used, the get up kids -- debateable though, brand new, etc). i just think it's my overall musical taste. i find emo song structures more fulfilling as a fan and as a musician... the harmonies and layering guitar/piano/strings (common in songs with emo song structures) are really cool in my opinion... however, i think emo hasn't become ultra popular on mtv since it's hard to fit 6-8 min songs in a minute and a half video spot
emo songs: verse chours verse bridge chorus...maybe anothe verse...chorus...

also the same "structure" as ordinary pop/rock music.

and BET is definetly not playing emo songs, so i have no idea what you're talking about.

and i don't know what 6-8 minute long emo songs you're talking about, either. emo IS ultra popular. just cos a few folks on a u2 board don't know what it is, doesn't mean that there aren't loads of emo kids in my town. hell, if they're not wannbe gangstas, then they're emo kids. unless they're non-emo indie types...but there really aren't too many of them. mostly the gangster kids and emo kids.

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I remember someone commenting at the Ryan Adams board that anybody can write an emo song...just add the lyrics, "AND IT BURNED!!!!!!!!" after every line.
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Emo is crap recorded by upper middle class white boys trying to rebel against the terribly oppressive world they're living in while they drive around in SUVs and buy designer clothing with a built-in retro wash that makes it look just grungy enough so it may, on a good day, pass as Salvation Army.

That's all you need to know.
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Ok then.

So I don't need to hurt myself driving over to Tower to stock up?
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I just saved ya a tank of gas.
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i had no idea anitram was so cool.
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What is sad is that Emo has degenerated into being associated clothing and bad song writing.

What many people don't realize is that emo began in the early 90's and had nothing to do with thrift store fashion or songs about heartbreak.

bands like Fugazi, Embrace, Rites of Spring, and Slint spearheaded the emo movement when it meant something. When it was not about crap songs, when it was about powerful emotional performences. It was melodic hardcore music. More arty than shitty really.

It pretty much peaked in 1994 when Sunny Day Real Estate released the groundbreaking album "Diary" and so many bands tried to make their own version of that album.

In the late 90's is when Emo pretty much became fashion centric, bad song writing crap music.

Now it's just commercial, bought and sold just like grunge was. Emo, as it is today, is the new grunge really. None of these major label "emo" bands can hold a candle to any of the bands that came before them.
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Nerd rock. Think skinny white boys, converse allstars, pimples, brown frame glasses, low self esteem, songs all sounding the same.
eh.... like weezer???
but i like "Buddy Holly"!!!
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my roommate listens to emo. it's not bad, and it's great driving at night music, but it gets really boring and repeative after awhile.

dashboard confessional sucks.
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