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Old 05-06-2008, 08:45 AM   #16
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Re: What does it cost to live in America?

West Michigan is INSANELY CHEAP for housing. On the other hand, we have the worst housing market, unemployment, and economy in the entire country.

This is what Phil and I pay. No kids, 5 animals (I'm not including their costs of food). I pay everything but Phil's phone and car insurance (he works part time to cover those two bills). I make less than the national average and I think we live comfortably. We have less than a month's cost in savings, but no car payments or credit card debt. About 100K in student debt, which I pay $440/mo on (just my loans, Phil's are in deferment).

Food: $250/mo??
Gas: for cars? $3.70 yesterday
Rent/Mortgage Payment: rent - $625/mo (refundable deposit $1025)
Car Payment: none, we drive junkers worth less than $2000 together
Car Insurance: about $100/mo for 2 cars on PLPD, this includes our renter's insurance
Utilities: electricity averages $60/mo and gas is like $120 in the winter and $40 or less in the summer
Phone/Internet: Internet and cable bundle is $66/mo, no phone
Cell Phone: Phil's is $40, mine is free b/c it's a work phone
Baby Expenses (Diapers et al): n/a
Clothing: maybe $25/mo when averaged out. I bought a lot of new clothes recently b/c of weight loss but I don't shop high-end
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:55 AM   #17
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Clothing: $200 a month
Change that to shoes and makeup for some of us.

Michigan is fairly cheap, so as a single girl with no health insurance, I get by ok.

I got a steal on my new lease - my payment and insurance just both went down about $30 each, my rent is ridiculously low compared to some others, and I go grocery shopping about once a month.
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Considering Sean is going to have a young child who's going to grow pretty quickly, I think $200/month for clothing isn't all that outrageous.

Maybe it's too high an estimate, though, especially if you can find a consignment shop that has gently used baby clothes.
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Change that to shoes and makeup for some of us.

Michigan is fairly cheap, so as a single girl with no health insurance, I get by ok.

I got a steal on my new lease - my payment and insurance just both went down about $30 each, my rent is ridiculously low compared to some others, and I go grocery shopping about once a month.
No health insurance?
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No health insurance?
Nope.
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Move to Canada, yo. Everyone has health insurance!
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Nope.
When I was "newly single" I went about six years without health insurance
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Nope.
Your job doesn't offer it to you?

I'd probably be dead without insurance. Or living in a box

Back in the early 80s, before I was dating my now husband, he had gotten sick, had no insurance, and went to the hospital. He had symptoms of appendicitis (white/red cell count), but was sent home. Felt sicker during the night, and went to the ER and they performed an emergency appendectomy. At the time (early 80s), the cost to him was $5000 and he just had to charge it and pay it off. I'm scared to think what that would cost now.
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Sean, seriously, consider Australia, dude. The cost of living in the US is insane and out dollar is fairly comparable currently.


Oh, and you'd also have your baby for free here and get a nice little $5k bonus payment for your wife's um.. labours. lol.
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The dirt-cheap stuff to the north of Seattle by a half hour is $3.61 per gallon!
$2.51 isn't what I paid, geez - it's so high I think my brain wouldn't let me type it.
I paid $3.51 per gal - duh.
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Considering Sean is going to have a young child who's going to grow pretty quickly, I think $200/month for clothing isn't all that outrageous.

Maybe it's too high an estimate, though, especially if you can find a consignment shop that has gently used baby clothes.
There is a chain in Washington called Other Mothers which my sister-in-law has used well where you can find baby-clothes for extremely cheap (and in very, very good condition). It makes no sense to me to buy everything new for a baby since it's going to be grown out of so quickly--maybe a few things, but you would probably get a bunch of infant stuff at a baby shower.
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Haven't you heard?

Its free to live in America... and the streets are paved with gold.

I've been living without health insurance for 12 years. Know what my plan is? Don't get sick.
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Oh, and you'd also have your baby for free here and get a nice little $5k bonus payment for your wife's um.. labours. lol.
Damn, I should've moved to Australia when I had my three kids. I deserved a bonus payment for my last kid especially, the little butterball was 9 lbs 11 oz.
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